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Racial Decline and Favoritism (Global Discussion)
Thu May 19, 2011 1:56 pm
Racial Decline
The list below is the recent count of the population in each races (Thusday, May 19th, 2011, 2:22pm EST)
Shinigami = 71
Human = 40
Demon = 23
Iramasha = 20
Vizard = 20
Arrancar = 18
Ziamichi = 14
Sugiura = 5
Quincy = 4
Hollow = 2
Mod Souls = 2
This topic of this site is concerning about the matter of Favoritism or Racial Bias. As it is noticeable, the Quincy, Hollow, and Mod Soul are drastically underpopulated. Considering they are part of the Canon side of Bleach Anime and Manga, they would be part of the platform. However, in the Anime and Manga, the mentioning of these three races are all dwindling except for the Hollows, which are mentioned as the primary focus throughout most of the first couple of arcs. It is not peculiar as to why Hollows are not played more often as they are viewed as easy targets for would-be heroes while the Quincy are viewed as inferior compared to the more popular figures, the Soul Reapers (Shinigami) and the Humans (The most biased race used in the history of storytelling.)
The goals for now is to figure out a way to make the three lowest races more playable than they used to be. Frost wished to encouraged role-players to make a Ziamichi to increase the activity with the Yayjuu, an organization made specifically for the Ziamichi. The sad news from this is that we may have to cut down on the races for now until we have more of the other races to make up the variance and possibilities.
~Opportunities and Incentives~
(This can be edited by other staff members, so if you have an opportunity and/or incentive, tell a staff member about it.)
Frost (Head Admin)
As far as how I feel about this issue, I believe we have more then enough Shinigami for now which is why I have been limiting their Shikai, lowering their start off tiers and etc. Eventually, I may stop giving out Shikai even since they are overpopulated. And right now, human's are pretty set when it comes down to the numbers. They are increasing in popularity most likely because they have the potential to play a bigger role in the grand scheme of things. Many path's for them to walk and what not. I may also allow a select few to reach 0 tier as well.
But this discussion isn't about those two races, it's about all the others. From my side of things, I'm mostly focused on Arrancar, Ziamichi's and Vizard's as my primary focus along with more people joining antagonist orgs. Therefore, I'm going to start off with the Arrancar. We obviously need more of them if we are gonna have anymore interesting event style fights and to keep the balance between the Protagonist and Antagonist side.
As such, if you make a quality app and sign up for the Nuevo Espada, I or Chaozi will be giving you 1, maybe even 0 tier characters so we can fill these spots up. In return, however, I expect you to really put effort into these characters, don't half-ass it and make SURE you will be able to play that character and stay active with it. If this plan doesn't work, we will simply strip away title, rank and tier of said characters that are put through this program.
As far as The Vizard Corps are concerned on the protagonist side, we need more Vizard signing up for this Org in order to get things moving with them. So, in light of all this, if you make a Vizard Character to join up with the Corps, I will be giving you 2, 1 and possibly 0 tier depending on the rank you take. You must be sure to write quality, stay active and RP this character.
On The Kokuryuteishi side, I require more Commanders and Lieutenant Commander's. So, like the others, if you make a character to join up with this org I will assign 2, 1 and possibly 0 tiers depending on which spots are open by the time your character is finished.
With Ziamichi's, I'm focusing on them more and making them more integrated into the site. So anyone who makes a Ziamichi will typically start off at 2 tier since it's like making dual profiles. If the app is really good, I may give you 1 tier as well. If it's exceptional, I'll end up giving you some type of 0 tier. I am also looking for more people to join their org which is The Yayjuu, people who join that will also get 1 or 2 tier.
Sin Fall is doing alright, but we still need member to fill up those spots as well. So don't forget about them and those crazy Demon's and I'll end up giving away 1 tier for most who sign up for this org. 0 tier in special cases.
Finally, we need more human's to join Force Feedback. Rena will enjoy it and I will be making more efforts to make this orgnazation more advertised since I know most don't know of it's existence. As such, human's joining this org will get nice pay, 1 or 2 tier and a decent spot.
Other then that, Demon's and Iramasha's are fine by my ranks, the more the merrier in their case. Human's and Shinigami's are well populated. Vizards and Ziamichi's are clearly rising in number and now we most focus on the QUincy and Hollow.
I'm considering revamping the Hollow's to give them advancements over the past 400 years like I did with the humans. Possibly Cybernetic Upgrades, New Forms and making them more relevant in the plot. Since obviously the main reason people don't make them is because they are typically seen as bait for hero's to kick ass. Expect changes in their template soon.
When it comes to the Quincy Race, even in the Bleach Canon they are pretty much irrelevant to the plot. Most fan's don't even acknowledge them, so I'm at a lost at what to do with them. I'll let the people who have Quincies continue to RP then, but I am seriously considering dropping them since their race numbers had also dwindled to a hand full in the anime/manga and on here. If anyone has any idea's, feel free to shout, otherwise, I may just drop em'
As for mod souls, I was considering revamping em', but they are also on the chopping list since only two exist on this site. No point in going through all that work unless someone has a plan for them.
I will also want people who are interested in getting more involved with the site's plot to try and contract me in PC or PM on the site. I only want people who are active, been here awhile (at least one month or two), can RP on a good level and can work with me and have patience. For now, I want people to focus on their own sub-plots and have their own thing going on instead of worrying about some huge site plot, but for those who want to be included in it please contact me, I will get get a list and we all will converse idea's and plots, be sure put you in an important role in the overall site plot and get things moving.
Other then that, I have no other input to say. Fuck the haters and fuck the nay sayers, if you wanna get somewhere, work with me and I'll be sure to have it pay off.
Come at me, bro.
Chaozi
The Arrancar and Hollow numbers are dwindling compared to other races and that is an obvious statement. What i ask any member reading this is: Why has the Canon Antagonists fallen so far? As the Leader of the Espada, I have been trying to resurrect the future of the Arrancar race before it is pretty much wiped out and I have been unsuccessful alone. However members tend to leave and go Inactive thus making the Espada numbers drop and make them look rather empty and stupid compared to their rivals: The Shinigami. After all, who cares for a 6 man Espada out of the 10 that I need? That is why I created a request for Sisters that follow the Cero Espada's bloodline which can be found here.
Also, does one realise that the Espada, the Guard AND fraccion earn yen over a weekly basis? They are an organisation after all and Ashlei has pockets. So in short the incentive here would be money, and positions. We have Espadas 7-9 free for Arrancar to join and The Espada guards are looking for people. However to join them you either need to be one of Ashlei's sisters or prove your worth against the current Superior or Vice guard. Here are the listings for the Espada and what we are missing.
So here is a smaller list of things I mentioned for quick reading:
Akemi
From what I am seeing Mod-Soul are very lacking in all variables, since Matthew is going to kill his own soon; It would leave me as the only one with a mod-soul. As of lately I am going to start put more thought in re-creating Mitsou so he can have some role with in plot line for the Mod-Souls or have someone create one. Understand that where Frost pointed out that they were useless, We can either remove them or make them a NPC race.
~Modsoul's Plot~
Seeing over the hundreds years, Modsouls were used only to have one basic function to service under the Shinigami's thumb just so their Gigai would not be destroyed. Since first hundred years of development; One Shinigami took a step out after the mass murder of another village in a remote village for the souls to create more mods souls. He/she has been gathering mod souls, and creating a society of them even giving them bodies that they were never to have. They would be granted a body with magical traits to fight back against the Shinigami. Truly the creator of this society didn't want them to take revenge, so one of the strongest and brightest mod-soul had killed their leader and took his magical blade 'Minako', A lost demonic blade infused with an powerful relic, and began to rule this society. They would slowly and surely taken their revenge on the Shinigami.
Today in 2411, Mod-souls would be called Soul Shifters... Several of these being have been detected within the living area of the Soul Society, in a great mass alone, by the Second Division Intelligent but only weaker ones have been called out. Unknown to even them, some have taken form of captains and others maybe thousand as division members, while real Shinigami were kidnapped into the Quiet Society of Soul Shifters and made to work. Yet they were still able to use their Swords in full Bankai, copy the image, sound, and spiritual energy of the shinigami. Within the Society, Shinigami were stripped of their powers; thanks to the development in technology today, they are slaves to even the race that enslaved them. While they would live their lives, as Shinigami.
-What are Soul Shifters- (Basic and will explain it more if the idea goes through)
It is basically an evolved form of Mod-Souls. They are those who are given a body and began to attach to it. Since they don’t have their own spiritual energy over their own they are to copy and steal another’s races. They can only copy Shinigami and Humans since anything else are too complicated of energy pattern. They also take up their image, memories, possibly a good amount of their feelings, energy imprint, and an actual copy of their Zanpakutô and abilities. (You can only add onto the Natural abilities; maybe one to each of their Shikai and Bankai but nothing more than that.) Basically they become double-gangers. They can only copy one Shinigami not more than one. If their copy of Zanpakutô is broken, they turn back into their normal self.
-Another is coming up for the Demons~
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Since the Sin fall seems to be only Demon Related Object out there, I am going to put in a Royal Demon Court out there. Due to fact that there are not only evil demons in Demon world nor only good. These are the Hierarchy of Demon world, The King and Queen, The advisers, The Heads of each of the important clan of demon; which have to be some of the strongest//or//smartest out there in the demon world as the high council, the Royal Guard, Generals, etc. These are the demons who are true the Hierarchy to believe that Touketsu will never return to them and continue to move on, both good and bad, making this Hierarchy flawed like any sort of government. This is the original government in which the demon world has followed. I wish to actually run this Organization do to One of My Characters relations; if it is approved by Frost's standards. I will also be setting things up to go with as well as the history of demon after Touketsu's seal and ruling. This Organization/Kingdom format can be open to all races but Humans, Modsouls, Quincy, and Shinigami. But you can't be in any higher then generals if you not a demon or born of royalty in the demon world.
UHCM
(This can be edited by other staff members, so if you have an opportunity and/or incentive, tell a staff member about it.)
Frost (Head Admin)
As far as how I feel about this issue, I believe we have more then enough Shinigami for now which is why I have been limiting their Shikai, lowering their start off tiers and etc. Eventually, I may stop giving out Shikai even since they are overpopulated. And right now, human's are pretty set when it comes down to the numbers. They are increasing in popularity most likely because they have the potential to play a bigger role in the grand scheme of things. Many path's for them to walk and what not. I may also allow a select few to reach 0 tier as well.
But this discussion isn't about those two races, it's about all the others. From my side of things, I'm mostly focused on Arrancar, Ziamichi's and Vizard's as my primary focus along with more people joining antagonist orgs. Therefore, I'm going to start off with the Arrancar. We obviously need more of them if we are gonna have anymore interesting event style fights and to keep the balance between the Protagonist and Antagonist side.
As such, if you make a quality app and sign up for the Nuevo Espada, I or Chaozi will be giving you 1, maybe even 0 tier characters so we can fill these spots up. In return, however, I expect you to really put effort into these characters, don't half-ass it and make SURE you will be able to play that character and stay active with it. If this plan doesn't work, we will simply strip away title, rank and tier of said characters that are put through this program.
As far as The Vizard Corps are concerned on the protagonist side, we need more Vizard signing up for this Org in order to get things moving with them. So, in light of all this, if you make a Vizard Character to join up with the Corps, I will be giving you 2, 1 and possibly 0 tier depending on the rank you take. You must be sure to write quality, stay active and RP this character.
On The Kokuryuteishi side, I require more Commanders and Lieutenant Commander's. So, like the others, if you make a character to join up with this org I will assign 2, 1 and possibly 0 tiers depending on which spots are open by the time your character is finished.
With Ziamichi's, I'm focusing on them more and making them more integrated into the site. So anyone who makes a Ziamichi will typically start off at 2 tier since it's like making dual profiles. If the app is really good, I may give you 1 tier as well. If it's exceptional, I'll end up giving you some type of 0 tier. I am also looking for more people to join their org which is The Yayjuu, people who join that will also get 1 or 2 tier.
Sin Fall is doing alright, but we still need member to fill up those spots as well. So don't forget about them and those crazy Demon's and I'll end up giving away 1 tier for most who sign up for this org. 0 tier in special cases.
Finally, we need more human's to join Force Feedback. Rena will enjoy it and I will be making more efforts to make this orgnazation more advertised since I know most don't know of it's existence. As such, human's joining this org will get nice pay, 1 or 2 tier and a decent spot.
Other then that, Demon's and Iramasha's are fine by my ranks, the more the merrier in their case. Human's and Shinigami's are well populated. Vizards and Ziamichi's are clearly rising in number and now we most focus on the QUincy and Hollow.
I'm considering revamping the Hollow's to give them advancements over the past 400 years like I did with the humans. Possibly Cybernetic Upgrades, New Forms and making them more relevant in the plot. Since obviously the main reason people don't make them is because they are typically seen as bait for hero's to kick ass. Expect changes in their template soon.
When it comes to the Quincy Race, even in the Bleach Canon they are pretty much irrelevant to the plot. Most fan's don't even acknowledge them, so I'm at a lost at what to do with them. I'll let the people who have Quincies continue to RP then, but I am seriously considering dropping them since their race numbers had also dwindled to a hand full in the anime/manga and on here. If anyone has any idea's, feel free to shout, otherwise, I may just drop em'
As for mod souls, I was considering revamping em', but they are also on the chopping list since only two exist on this site. No point in going through all that work unless someone has a plan for them.
I will also want people who are interested in getting more involved with the site's plot to try and contract me in PC or PM on the site. I only want people who are active, been here awhile (at least one month or two), can RP on a good level and can work with me and have patience. For now, I want people to focus on their own sub-plots and have their own thing going on instead of worrying about some huge site plot, but for those who want to be included in it please contact me, I will get get a list and we all will converse idea's and plots, be sure put you in an important role in the overall site plot and get things moving.
Other then that, I have no other input to say. Fuck the haters and fuck the nay sayers, if you wanna get somewhere, work with me and I'll be sure to have it pay off.
Come at me, bro.
Chaozi
The Arrancar and Hollow numbers are dwindling compared to other races and that is an obvious statement. What i ask any member reading this is: Why has the Canon Antagonists fallen so far? As the Leader of the Espada, I have been trying to resurrect the future of the Arrancar race before it is pretty much wiped out and I have been unsuccessful alone. However members tend to leave and go Inactive thus making the Espada numbers drop and make them look rather empty and stupid compared to their rivals: The Shinigami. After all, who cares for a 6 man Espada out of the 10 that I need? That is why I created a request for Sisters that follow the Cero Espada's bloodline which can be found here.
Also, does one realise that the Espada, the Guard AND fraccion earn yen over a weekly basis? They are an organisation after all and Ashlei has pockets. So in short the incentive here would be money, and positions. We have Espadas 7-9 free for Arrancar to join and The Espada guards are looking for people. However to join them you either need to be one of Ashlei's sisters or prove your worth against the current Superior or Vice guard. Here are the listings for the Espada and what we are missing.
So here is a smaller list of things I mentioned for quick reading:
- Mischevang Sisters (Going Quickly :))
- Espada (high tier positions available!)
- Espada Guards! (Any race!)
- Xeno Hollows (robot monsters ftw!)
Akemi
From what I am seeing Mod-Soul are very lacking in all variables, since Matthew is going to kill his own soon; It would leave me as the only one with a mod-soul. As of lately I am going to start put more thought in re-creating Mitsou so he can have some role with in plot line for the Mod-Souls or have someone create one. Understand that where Frost pointed out that they were useless, We can either remove them or make them a NPC race.
~Modsoul's Plot~
Seeing over the hundreds years, Modsouls were used only to have one basic function to service under the Shinigami's thumb just so their Gigai would not be destroyed. Since first hundred years of development; One Shinigami took a step out after the mass murder of another village in a remote village for the souls to create more mods souls. He/she has been gathering mod souls, and creating a society of them even giving them bodies that they were never to have. They would be granted a body with magical traits to fight back against the Shinigami. Truly the creator of this society didn't want them to take revenge, so one of the strongest and brightest mod-soul had killed their leader and took his magical blade 'Minako', A lost demonic blade infused with an powerful relic, and began to rule this society. They would slowly and surely taken their revenge on the Shinigami.
Today in 2411, Mod-souls would be called Soul Shifters... Several of these being have been detected within the living area of the Soul Society, in a great mass alone, by the Second Division Intelligent but only weaker ones have been called out. Unknown to even them, some have taken form of captains and others maybe thousand as division members, while real Shinigami were kidnapped into the Quiet Society of Soul Shifters and made to work. Yet they were still able to use their Swords in full Bankai, copy the image, sound, and spiritual energy of the shinigami. Within the Society, Shinigami were stripped of their powers; thanks to the development in technology today, they are slaves to even the race that enslaved them. While they would live their lives, as Shinigami.
-What are Soul Shifters- (Basic and will explain it more if the idea goes through)
It is basically an evolved form of Mod-Souls. They are those who are given a body and began to attach to it. Since they don’t have their own spiritual energy over their own they are to copy and steal another’s races. They can only copy Shinigami and Humans since anything else are too complicated of energy pattern. They also take up their image, memories, possibly a good amount of their feelings, energy imprint, and an actual copy of their Zanpakutô and abilities. (You can only add onto the Natural abilities; maybe one to each of their Shikai and Bankai but nothing more than that.) Basically they become double-gangers. They can only copy one Shinigami not more than one. If their copy of Zanpakutô is broken, they turn back into their normal self.
-Another is coming up for the Demons~
-----------------
Since the Sin fall seems to be only Demon Related Object out there, I am going to put in a Royal Demon Court out there. Due to fact that there are not only evil demons in Demon world nor only good. These are the Hierarchy of Demon world, The King and Queen, The advisers, The Heads of each of the important clan of demon; which have to be some of the strongest//or//smartest out there in the demon world as the high council, the Royal Guard, Generals, etc. These are the demons who are true the Hierarchy to believe that Touketsu will never return to them and continue to move on, both good and bad, making this Hierarchy flawed like any sort of government. This is the original government in which the demon world has followed. I wish to actually run this Organization do to One of My Characters relations; if it is approved by Frost's standards. I will also be setting things up to go with as well as the history of demon after Touketsu's seal and ruling. This Organization/Kingdom format can be open to all races but Humans, Modsouls, Quincy, and Shinigami. But you can't be in any higher then generals if you not a demon or born of royalty in the demon world.
UHCM
Project Momma U: A project originally used to challenge role-players into using a Quincy in a family-style role-play like the Ishida Family. However, this family was primarily different by characters and setup, but the powers of the Quincy is not changed, so the folks who joined this group can make a quincy with the powers of the quincy.
--------Side-Plot: More and more clans of Quincy survivors are dwindling, leaving more and more lone Quincy out in the world alone without a family to regulate training to further improve their capabilities. The Tsuineda Clan or the "Twin Bows" is one of the very few surviving clans, but historically not very noteworthy in the previous efforts made by the other Quincy clans, due to their choice to protect their homeland of Kyoto instead of Karakura or other locations. With the Ishida Family, a begrudged allying family of the Tsuineda Clan died down with Uryu Ishida, the Tsuineda Clan began expanding their field of operation to pick up the slack left behind by the Ishida Family. However, the previous attempts faltered through the non-violent debate between the Rekiden (Traditionalists) and the Jimuteki (Practitioners) and the split in the clan caused a massive decline in numbers for the Tsuineda Quincy who are cooperating with the Gotei 13 and the Vizard Corp in respects for Uryu Ishida, who previously helped Ichigo Kurosaki many times, despite Ichigo being a Shinigami and a Vizard. The Traditionalists won the debate with no blood spilled on either side as it appeared that the Tsuineda Quincy disappeared from Osaka, Karakura, Tokyo and many more while Kyoto is bustling with Tsuineda Quincy. They are slow to increase their presence, but they did survived for so long when the Ishida Family, the top Quincy Family in Japan faltered and died. What is there is a mystery as to how they survived and why they suddenly stopped helping their allies and it is up to ambassadors or friends to discover; maybe then, they could find a way to break them from tradition and aid in the struggle against the growing enemy forces. How they are still known? Some of the soul reapers encountered them before in Kyoto and a few rebellious Tsuineda Quincy chose to go against the wishes of the elders (who are all Traditionalists) to aid Force Feedback or find a group of Quincy who are on their own after the devastating loss of Quincy Clans.
(Incentive: UHCM will transfer 1,000 yen (point currency in this site) from his own account to each member of the group based on how much they posted in RP-Only threads as the character in the group)
New Group-Related Skill Added for Joining
The Tsuineda Technique
The twin bow is a technique that the Tsuineda Clan was named after because of their signature bow or crossbow having an "X" shape that is explained to make the reishi arrows stronger and quicker by adding more power in the minimal releasing power, but a special amplification bangle is needed due to it heightened requirement for the amount of reishi. Though the Ishida Family invented the bangle first, The Tsuineda Bangle was specially designed to amplify the reishi intake by three times rather than twice as much demonstrated in the Ishida Bangle. Aside from the bangle, the twin bow technique allowed them to perform more devastating damage within their race's signature speed while opened up to more capabilities like Umeko Tsuineda's Kaunta-Atakku, which is capable of using the attacker's projectile attack against the attacker. Due to the separation between the Tsuineda and the other clans, this technique was kept a secret and each member of the clan was drilled to never reveal anything about the technique other than its capability of enhanced effectiveness, so the other clans or enemies will not learn about it, even if they tried to use sensing ability like the Arrancar's Pesquisa. The way that the Traditionalists preferred is to make the technique instinctive rather than learned, keeping the younger generations of Tsuineda Quincy from knowing about the details that they could use to teach others, leaving the true knowledge of the technique in documents separated by the elders.
Misaiko
Sugiuras
Well, i'm just getting them back into the fray, most of their information and stuff that i have, is still here and i'll simply explain anything people need help with, in pm's. Simply put, the main reason my race declined is due to close friends who were making a big part of them. If people will notice, they get alot of benefit, by making a sugiura clan member, or character. Not only do they have two stages that are on the level of shikai and bankai, but they are allowed one more, that goes past that level. Since i don't have many, people would be able to get a 1 or 0 tier, with the full stages, granted they have good rp skill, a good head on their shoulder, and good attitude.
As for getting them into the over all plot, they're pretty much aligned with most good organizations, on this site. So for people who want to make heroes, then come at me in a pm. as far as people who enjoy antagonist's, i could make a possible group for sugiuras, with saeko as the ring leader, who want to bring the kingdom down and take over the land, and maybe team up with other possible evil organizations in order to help them grow.
I'm making the king, revamping the queen, and i have big plans for them, to start over and make anew, but this will depend on the site memebrs and how popular the race becomes, i do ask, that even if they don't and i try my hardest, that i still get to keep them. on another note, i pretty much like the idea for quincies, and mod souls, well momo gave her idea, not only that, if people want to come to me for request's for character's to give more members to a specific group, pm me with an idea, and i will do anything that you'd like, granted you're respectful and a bit patient. That's my input, so take it into consideration, chao!
Raen
Band of Archers:
ESPECIALLY since the Quincy have suffered greatly centuries ago, during the massacre caused by Radioactive, the few that have survived and kept the race going should hold large, unbreakable bonds with one another, similar to family ties. This is done in order to be able to stand strong against another mass-scale assault, with the odds in their favor, perchance. I recommend the creation of an organization, possibly a "Band of Brothers", Quincy Style, where the quincies watch one another, and have each other's back, in order to keep the race strong and thriving. The organisation can provide quincy tools, the ability to share knowledge pertaining to techniques and abilities, and lastly, a compassionate environment to gill up their hearts with Vigor. Weekly Payments, activities for the members to partake, allies and support, and the works should all be available for use in this group.
That is the basis for my idea, as for the Mod Souls... I cannot contrive anything useful for them.
Genpaku
With the issue being popularity, raising the power and acceptance tiers of the races may not be the answer we’re looking for. Sure, people would be interested in getting a strong character, but if it isn’t one they’re interested in making, then eventually their interest will taper off and the character(s) will fall into disuse. That being said, I think it’s important that its shown, not just said, that characters from every race can and do stand on equal footing with one another. People forget that when they make a hollow, they aren’t making the cannon fodder beings that get slaughtered; they are making a intelligent hollow(typically) that is capable of causing much more damage than the drones we use for other posts. The issue isn’t in power, because that balance issue has already been worked out; it lies in interest itself.
People like Shinigami because they’re the main antagonist of the show, and the show is what gets people interested in this community in the first place. Now, we can all hold our breath for Kubo to do something interesting with the Quincy, Mod Souls, Hollows, and so on, or we can come up with something different. I’m done holding my breath, just in case people haven’t noticed.
Beyond Shinigami and Human being that premier races of Bleach though, they possess other factors that make them more attractive to play than Hollows, Quincys, and Mod Souls. Kidou, the different Hado arts, the nigh infinite possibilities of Human powers and Zanpaku-tou abilities. The quincy arts are incredibly limited(as in we only know of a few of them, and that probably isn’t going to change until/unless Quincys become important again), people forget that Hollows by their very nature have the same infiniteness of possibilities with their “natural” abilities. Power and Money are decent incentives, but what people are looking for is impact.
So maybe the Hollows need to launch a full scale assault of Soul Society? Maybe the Mod Souls need to stage an uprising? Maybe the Quincys need to do something sufficiently bad ass? All possibilities, but I think it’s important to note another thing; organization size. The Gotei is a larger organization(I’m talking about the organization’s scope not site population) than most of the other orgs. There is more room for people to be a part of. So is the answer to make all of the orgs just as big? That’s how we end up with organizations looking half empty. Maybe we need to scale down the size of organizations then?
I’m just tossing around different ideas that have come to mind thus far. Part of me would toss up a few other arguments, however. Is it a good idea to try and increase the popularity of these races? Already, we have so many characters on this site; as of the census that UHCM took, 219 characters apparently that are active. This becomes an issue when we do full site events; how do you fit all of those characters into a thread or two? I agree its an issue that there are so many more Shinigami and Humans than the rest of the races(50% of the site is those 2 races after all), but I think that simply putting limiters on the acceptance rates and strength of Shinigamis and humans might be enough to dissuade most.
Also, there is an issue of canon characters; the Gotei has more surviving members from the show than any other organization. Last I checked, the only surviving original Espada members were Grimmjow and Ulquiorra(and only cause he was brought back from the dead). Demons, Iramasha, Ziamichi, and Sugiura are all custom races that can’t have any canon characters, and the Mod Souls and Quincys have 1 and 2 respectively, unless you count those 3 mod souls that Urahara made back during one of the filler arcs and that hung around for the very very very beginning of the Arrancar arc before fading into obscurity and oblivion. How many of the Shinigami are holdovers from the show?
I think there are some good ideas in this thread already, so take what I was saying with a grain of salt. Overall, if we’re looking for incentive to play Hollows, Quincys, Mod Souls, and even Sugiuras, I think we need to show those races having some success and leaving an impact on the site history. Demons are the third ranked race on site right now, and you know what they did? They FUCKING INVADED SOUL SOCIETY with Ender. Have any of the “low count” races done anything nearly as significant? I think giving some background for those races, and having them leave a footprint in the sites history would go a long way in boosting their popularity.
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Obviously the rates of 'unpopular' races are dropping drastically. I, like many others, have noticed and want to take action. In my opinion, we should cut off applications for certain species until the levels of organisations and races have evened out. Even before the story line of bleach, the quincy had been near extinction. I second Raen's idea of the, 'band of brothers'. I wouldn't mind to make a few hollows/quincys or anything to get their activity up.
New possible idea:
As for vizards, to play a larger role, suggestion of a antagonist vizard group? Rebelled vizards that didn't believe in the ways of soul society/The Vizard Crops. This would also bring up the activity on Vizards as well as the lowering number of antagonists. Maybe something along the lines of 'The shiwang' or something... They would be allied with the Nuevo, Sin fall and The Kokuryuteishi. Possibly, we could do the same with Ziamichi's.
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The twin bow is a technique that the Tsuineda Clan was named after because of their signature bow or crossbow having an "X" shape that is explained to make the reishi arrows stronger and quicker by adding more power in the minimal releasing power, but a special amplification bangle is needed due to it heightened requirement for the amount of reishi. Though the Ishida Family invented the bangle first, The Tsuineda Bangle was specially designed to amplify the reishi intake by three times rather than twice as much demonstrated in the Ishida Bangle. Aside from the bangle, the twin bow technique allowed them to perform more devastating damage within their race's signature speed while opened up to more capabilities like Umeko Tsuineda's Kaunta-Atakku, which is capable of using the attacker's projectile attack against the attacker. Due to the separation between the Tsuineda and the other clans, this technique was kept a secret and each member of the clan was drilled to never reveal anything about the technique other than its capability of enhanced effectiveness, so the other clans or enemies will not learn about it, even if they tried to use sensing ability like the Arrancar's Pesquisa. The way that the Traditionalists preferred is to make the technique instinctive rather than learned, keeping the younger generations of Tsuineda Quincy from knowing about the details that they could use to teach others, leaving the true knowledge of the technique in documents separated by the elders.
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Well, i'm just getting them back into the fray, most of their information and stuff that i have, is still here and i'll simply explain anything people need help with, in pm's. Simply put, the main reason my race declined is due to close friends who were making a big part of them. If people will notice, they get alot of benefit, by making a sugiura clan member, or character. Not only do they have two stages that are on the level of shikai and bankai, but they are allowed one more, that goes past that level. Since i don't have many, people would be able to get a 1 or 0 tier, with the full stages, granted they have good rp skill, a good head on their shoulder, and good attitude.
As for getting them into the over all plot, they're pretty much aligned with most good organizations, on this site. So for people who want to make heroes, then come at me in a pm. as far as people who enjoy antagonist's, i could make a possible group for sugiuras, with saeko as the ring leader, who want to bring the kingdom down and take over the land, and maybe team up with other possible evil organizations in order to help them grow.
I'm making the king, revamping the queen, and i have big plans for them, to start over and make anew, but this will depend on the site memebrs and how popular the race becomes, i do ask, that even if they don't and i try my hardest, that i still get to keep them. on another note, i pretty much like the idea for quincies, and mod souls, well momo gave her idea, not only that, if people want to come to me for request's for character's to give more members to a specific group, pm me with an idea, and i will do anything that you'd like, granted you're respectful and a bit patient. That's my input, so take it into consideration, chao!
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ESPECIALLY since the Quincy have suffered greatly centuries ago, during the massacre caused by Radioactive, the few that have survived and kept the race going should hold large, unbreakable bonds with one another, similar to family ties. This is done in order to be able to stand strong against another mass-scale assault, with the odds in their favor, perchance. I recommend the creation of an organization, possibly a "Band of Brothers", Quincy Style, where the quincies watch one another, and have each other's back, in order to keep the race strong and thriving. The organisation can provide quincy tools, the ability to share knowledge pertaining to techniques and abilities, and lastly, a compassionate environment to gill up their hearts with Vigor. Weekly Payments, activities for the members to partake, allies and support, and the works should all be available for use in this group.
That is the basis for my idea, as for the Mod Souls... I cannot contrive anything useful for them.
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With the issue being popularity, raising the power and acceptance tiers of the races may not be the answer we’re looking for. Sure, people would be interested in getting a strong character, but if it isn’t one they’re interested in making, then eventually their interest will taper off and the character(s) will fall into disuse. That being said, I think it’s important that its shown, not just said, that characters from every race can and do stand on equal footing with one another. People forget that when they make a hollow, they aren’t making the cannon fodder beings that get slaughtered; they are making a intelligent hollow(typically) that is capable of causing much more damage than the drones we use for other posts. The issue isn’t in power, because that balance issue has already been worked out; it lies in interest itself.
People like Shinigami because they’re the main antagonist of the show, and the show is what gets people interested in this community in the first place. Now, we can all hold our breath for Kubo to do something interesting with the Quincy, Mod Souls, Hollows, and so on, or we can come up with something different. I’m done holding my breath, just in case people haven’t noticed.
Beyond Shinigami and Human being that premier races of Bleach though, they possess other factors that make them more attractive to play than Hollows, Quincys, and Mod Souls. Kidou, the different Hado arts, the nigh infinite possibilities of Human powers and Zanpaku-tou abilities. The quincy arts are incredibly limited(as in we only know of a few of them, and that probably isn’t going to change until/unless Quincys become important again), people forget that Hollows by their very nature have the same infiniteness of possibilities with their “natural” abilities. Power and Money are decent incentives, but what people are looking for is impact.
So maybe the Hollows need to launch a full scale assault of Soul Society? Maybe the Mod Souls need to stage an uprising? Maybe the Quincys need to do something sufficiently bad ass? All possibilities, but I think it’s important to note another thing; organization size. The Gotei is a larger organization(I’m talking about the organization’s scope not site population) than most of the other orgs. There is more room for people to be a part of. So is the answer to make all of the orgs just as big? That’s how we end up with organizations looking half empty. Maybe we need to scale down the size of organizations then?
I’m just tossing around different ideas that have come to mind thus far. Part of me would toss up a few other arguments, however. Is it a good idea to try and increase the popularity of these races? Already, we have so many characters on this site; as of the census that UHCM took, 219 characters apparently that are active. This becomes an issue when we do full site events; how do you fit all of those characters into a thread or two? I agree its an issue that there are so many more Shinigami and Humans than the rest of the races(50% of the site is those 2 races after all), but I think that simply putting limiters on the acceptance rates and strength of Shinigamis and humans might be enough to dissuade most.
Also, there is an issue of canon characters; the Gotei has more surviving members from the show than any other organization. Last I checked, the only surviving original Espada members were Grimmjow and Ulquiorra(and only cause he was brought back from the dead). Demons, Iramasha, Ziamichi, and Sugiura are all custom races that can’t have any canon characters, and the Mod Souls and Quincys have 1 and 2 respectively, unless you count those 3 mod souls that Urahara made back during one of the filler arcs and that hung around for the very very very beginning of the Arrancar arc before fading into obscurity and oblivion. How many of the Shinigami are holdovers from the show?
I think there are some good ideas in this thread already, so take what I was saying with a grain of salt. Overall, if we’re looking for incentive to play Hollows, Quincys, Mod Souls, and even Sugiuras, I think we need to show those races having some success and leaving an impact on the site history. Demons are the third ranked race on site right now, and you know what they did? They FUCKING INVADED SOUL SOCIETY with Ender. Have any of the “low count” races done anything nearly as significant? I think giving some background for those races, and having them leave a footprint in the sites history would go a long way in boosting their popularity.
Zero
Kyle
Obviously the rates of 'unpopular' races are dropping drastically. I, like many others, have noticed and want to take action. In my opinion, we should cut off applications for certain species until the levels of organisations and races have evened out. Even before the story line of bleach, the quincy had been near extinction. I second Raen's idea of the, 'band of brothers'. I wouldn't mind to make a few hollows/quincys or anything to get their activity up.
New possible idea:
As for vizards, to play a larger role, suggestion of a antagonist vizard group? Rebelled vizards that didn't believe in the ways of soul society/The Vizard Crops. This would also bring up the activity on Vizards as well as the lowering number of antagonists. Maybe something along the lines of 'The shiwang' or something... They would be allied with the Nuevo, Sin fall and The Kokuryuteishi. Possibly, we could do the same with Ziamichi's.
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Re: Racial Decline and Favoritism (Global Discussion)
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Thu May 19, 2011 2:54 pm
Got my input settled. Just come at me if you wanna work with what I have to offer. Only working with people who will stay active, members that have been here awhile, work for the powers they want and won't bitch alot. If you can do those few things, I will be sure over the next few weeks to get shit moving for your characters and added into the plot.
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Re: Racial Decline and Favoritism (Global Discussion)
Thu May 19, 2011 3:19 pm
Dropping races because of lack of popluarity? No. I wouldn't go forth with this at all. We need incetive for others to make new characters. Shinigami are expected to be the most played race due to the fact they are the main characters in bleach, and the main "Heroes" of the story. Quincys are under rated due to the fact they may be seen as weak people, as you never really saw Ishida kill anyone major in the anime (The strongest person he killed was that female Privaion Espada I believe. or prehaps Mayuri) and he was owned by Ulquorrira. Things like this are turn off, and the main character, Ichigo Kurosaki is a Shinigami too.
Things like this are what cause racial imbalance and favourtism, but there are some out there that prefer other races in Bleach to the Shinigami and the likes. Some people may want to be the "Good guy", which is why they make humans or Shinigami. Some like the bad guys, so they become Demons/Arrancars and the likes.
I do not support races being removed about this, I mean my Quincy/ZImiachi Ryder is at 1-3, which makes him at captain level. Quincies can be strong. Did you see that Ishida took out Mayuri in one shot with Lezet Still? But all in all, we have made our own characters. I have tried to help with the Espada/Zimiachi issues, as I have a Espada aswell. I've done my part for this, and future characters may be considered from time to time. Hollows are also seen as the good guy training excerise, revamping them may be a good idea.
Thats Portals 2 cents.
Things like this are what cause racial imbalance and favourtism, but there are some out there that prefer other races in Bleach to the Shinigami and the likes. Some people may want to be the "Good guy", which is why they make humans or Shinigami. Some like the bad guys, so they become Demons/Arrancars and the likes.
I do not support races being removed about this, I mean my Quincy/ZImiachi Ryder is at 1-3, which makes him at captain level. Quincies can be strong. Did you see that Ishida took out Mayuri in one shot with Lezet Still? But all in all, we have made our own characters. I have tried to help with the Espada/Zimiachi issues, as I have a Espada aswell. I've done my part for this, and future characters may be considered from time to time. Hollows are also seen as the good guy training excerise, revamping them may be a good idea.
Thats Portals 2 cents.
Re: Racial Decline and Favoritism (Global Discussion)
Thu May 19, 2011 3:32 pm
Dropping races because of lack of popluarity? No. I wouldn't go forth with this at all. We need incetive for others to make new characters.
I'm not a fan of dropping of it either, but as the fact stands, no one has done anything with the last three races mentioned. The only person I can remember who had alot for that race is Silim, and as of now, he is pretty much gone. Like I said in my post, if you want them to stay, I need people to man up and take charge. If someone has an idea for them, post it here instead of lurking in the shadow's.
Shinigami are expected to be the most played race due to the fact they are the main characters in bleach, and the main "Heroes" of the story.
Well that's fine and good, but there comes a point where shit becomes overpopulated and eventually the balance is shattered. I always expect the Shinigami to become the most populated race on the site, but at the same time I also want the other races to get beefed up in active characters to. Basically, just keeping everything even'd.
Quincys are under rated due to the fact they may be seen as weak people
In my opinion, I think Quincy's are ok. Never said I refereed to them as weak people, especially on this site, but as far things go outside of this site, most people often think of them as weak, useless and irrelevant. So obviously, with that misconception, people are not gonna be interested in making a Quincy. I'm also tempted to give the Quincy a revamp to like with Human's and the planned one for Hollow's.
I mean my Quincy/ZImiachi Ryder is at 1-3, which makes him at captain level. Quincies can be strong.
Again, I never said they were weak and you aren't the first to have a Quincy Ziamichi either. All I'm asking for is for people to pick up interest in them and I know we will see more powerful Quincy's. I mean, we did with the human's. I bet our version of human's would probably tear apart the canon Human's since they have a bigger role here.
But all in all, we have made our own characters. I have tried to help with the Espada/Zimiachi issues, as I have a Espada aswell. I've done my part for this, and future characters may be considered from time to time.
I'm very grateful that you have decided to help with these problems, and I thank you for that. However, I believe you are taking my message as a personal assault. Everything I have said is just a general statement, not directed at you or your character. Sometimes, the site just requires a good kick in the ass for people to get their shit together and that's what this meeting is basically about.
Hollows are also seen as the good guy training excerise, revamping them may be a good idea.
Indeed, the more I think about it, the more I believe this is a likely outcome that will from this meeting.
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Re: Racial Decline and Favoritism (Global Discussion)
Thu May 19, 2011 4:01 pm
I have added in my input
Re: Racial Decline and Favoritism (Global Discussion)
Thu May 19, 2011 4:07 pm
ESPECIALLY since the Quincy have suffered greatly centuries ago, during the massacre caused by Radioactive, the few that have survived and kept the race going should hold large, unbreakable bonds with one another, similar to family ties. This is done in order to be able to stand strong against another mass-scale assault, with the odds in their favor, perchance. I recommend the creation of an organization, possibly a "Band of Brothers", Quincy Style, where the quincies watch one another, and have each other's back, in order to keep the race strong and thriving. The organisation can provide quincy tools, the ability to share knowledge pertaining to techniques and abilities, and lastly, a compassionate environment to gill up their hearts with Vigor. Weekly Payments, activities for the members to partake, allies and support, and the works should all be available for use in this group.
HOLY DICKSAUCE, NOW HERE IS SOME THINKING ON YOUR ASS!
That sounds like a pretty badass idea I can implement into the site in order to keep the Quincy going strong. If you can, try to get org poisiton, template and that general info up in a draft and this could be a new org we can add to the site's plot. Not only that, but if I go ahead and revamp the Quincy template, this may actually save them.
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Re: Racial Decline and Favoritism (Global Discussion)
Thu May 19, 2011 4:20 pm
Hmm... Im thinking...
Thats a weird thing for me to do you see and now that i think about it, why don't I have a Quincy? probably because i tend to like the races that go boom, 3rd form gonna pwn some bitches.
on that note, I'm gonna use some Quincy knowledge, as uryu broke the glove, he forced his ultimate form. Does the site actually make use of the ultimate Quincy form, without forced activation?
Also on the hollow note and also something Portal has brought up. the hollows at one time were revamped. indeed, I created them many months ago and named them the Dues Ex hollows or sometimes the Xeno hollow. They were hollows created by Ashlei as a test to see if an Arrancar could attain a higher state of resserecion, with little realisation a segunda existed. Thus the Dues ex engine was created, and Ashlei tested it on an entire army of hollows, and turning them into super hollows known as the Xeno. Now from that, the Dues Ex engine Implant was made for us Espada and Arrancar with the money to buy one, but it appears I have lost the thread which may be down to a staff misunderstanding or my own stupidity.
if I may, i will create these once more so that the Espada have a bigger force to use as an army to match even the average shinigami out there, and even allow Members to create these hollows as NPC's.
which also brings up a point, why not just have Hollows, Mod souls etc as NPC only? They aren't truly a character you will always play unless you loved them. Even I had a mod soul until deciding she needed to be a shinigami and look where that's gotten her. i don't rly know anything bout the NPC's anyway so maybe they don't fit there at all.
Anyway, what i have said probably made no sense or was irrelevant. but I will say this:
I shall make a Quincy and join that organisation. just reading what you wrote, gave me an idea for one.
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