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Todesjäger Marching Forward
Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:39 pm
» Character: Lukas Ätherisch
» Upgrading: Spirit Weapon
Before:
After:
» Upgrading: Tier, 3-4 -> 3-2
» Why: Burst claim, Spirit Weapon from Advanced to Elite, and being affected by Rita's Asset Aura here after burning through his Quincy powers in the Ichigo Attack.
» Extra: "Fuck Ichigo."
» Upgrading: Spirit Weapon
Before:
- Spoiler:
- » Spirit Weapon Name: Geisterklinge
» Spirit Weapon Appearance: Gesiterklinge is a sword's blade, formed by condensing Lukas' reishi along the top of his fore-arm and the back of his wrist. Extending forwards, the reishi that comprises the blade is a pale blue, flickering at the edges like fire. Both side of the blade are edged, culminating in a triangle tip. Roughly four feet in length past his hand, it manages to appear similar to the size of a bastard.
» Spirit Weapon Abilities:
» Geisterstich: Geisterklinge can form itself from any point of it's dimensions - the reishi forming from whichever chosen point before expanding and forming the entirety of the blade. This allows for an assortment of options with approach to mid and close range battles, be it feints with the edge of the blade or defensive maneuvers through materializing the weapon inside of oncoming projectiles. The formation of the blade takes notably longer to form the further away from himself Lukas attempts to form it, the fastest being directly from his wrist.
The blade cuts as it forms, and moves as if the entire blade were formed at all times. If struck with enough force while being formed, it can be disrupted, releasing the reishi in a small explosion of energy. If the blade is fully formed, it can be de-materialized instantly, with partial creations of it taking more time to retract. The stability and sharpness of Geisterklinge increases the more fully it is summoned, limiting the overall firepower of the majority of his options.
» Geisterstich Ausführen: An assassination technique refined from Geisterstich, it requires Lukas' full attention - and even more importantly, to be at point blank range of his opponent. Placing his fist onto the target, Geisterklinge is drawn together from every possible point on it's blade, in an attempt to instantaneously form the blade inside of the intended target. The reishi and focus required for this is not particularly manageable for the majority of combat situations, making it suitable for stealth, or a finisher on a weakened/restrained target.
» Geisterstich Verstärkt: A fully formed Geisterklinge can be further reinforced by drawing more reishi into it's form. This is fairly visible, the blades form becoming more stable and a deeper hue of blue as more and more reishi is formed into it. This charge of reishi can be reasonably done twice, seemingly limited by his own ability. While reinforced, Geisterklinge takes a noticeably longer time to be dissolved, leaving a large period between this and general use Geisterstich.
» Spukender Pfeilregen: With his spirit weapon's relatively short range, Lukas developed an alternative approach to long range combat: erase it. By drawing the blade's reishi back into itself, the shape of the blade condenses atop Lukas' forearm, forming a massive cannon barrel. The amount of reishi to take this form is far from inconsequential, and it shows with its firepower.
Requiring him to spend time charging its payload, Pfeilregen releases a massive blast of arrows, capable of producing an enormous scattershot across a mile of space - both in width and length. Unfortunately, the scatter of this shot is wide, lacking in accuracy what it maintains in lethality. If somehow delivered at a point blank range, or in a confined space, these drawbacks can be somewhat ignored.
After its use, Geisterklinge cannot be formed for an extended period of time, and any performed Letzt Stil will be noticeably weaker in output. As such, it cannot be fired more than once every blue moon, less he burn out his ability to gather and form reishi altogether. If somehow interrupted when forming this transformation, it causes a fairly decently sized eruption of reishi, more than capable of tearing off Lukas' arm in the process.
After:
- Spoiler:
- » Spirit Weapon Name: Ahnengeist
» Spirit Weapon Appearance: A bastard sword of crystalline blue. The hilt and guard of similar color, the weapon is noticeably unique in that the blade lacks a core. Rather, it only seems to have an edge, hollow otherwise. Roughly four feet in length with a triangle point, the inside of the blade does not possess a separate edge. The pommel's end takes the appearance of a small Quincy cross, the only denotation of particular 'design' it has.
» Spirit Weapon Abilities:
» Geistererbe: Where there was once a stiff, mechanical flow of reishi is now a natural extension of Lukas' power. As such, his abilities as a Quincy function more naturally in combination. The sword can be manifested along it's dimensions, however, to be correctly thrust or swung, the handle must be manifested first. If manifested without, it can only act as a somewhat flimsy barrier. The blade cuts as it is manifested, its shape manipulating faster the closer it is to him.
Far more stable than its previous form, destabilizing the weapon only causes it to de-materialize, rather than recoil in an explosion.The increased fluidity of its construction allows for a new breadth of techniques, no longer requiring further reinforcing of reishi to reach its peak offensive potential. It can, however, lower its own output with significant ease, turning the edge flat if so necessary. While functioning in this more 'blunt' fashion, the speed of strikes rises, as the mental overhead of keeping the blade sharp fades in return.
» Geisterschnitt: So long as Lukas can maintain uninterrupted focus and his spirit weapon, the blade can bypass defensive measures within its full length. Disappearing as it would contact a barrier, armor, or even layers of spiritual pressure - should the defensive measure be within the size of Ahnengeist, the blade will reappear on the opposite end. Focusing to his utmost limit, this technique can be returned to its roots as an assassination technique, attacking an opponents internal organs without leaving a scratch on the outside. This flow and manipulation of reishi is pronounced in action, making it best suited for unaware targets, as more active combatants should be able to read the ebb and flow of spiritual pressure associated. This ability cannot be attempted without at least 2 posts between uses, failed or otherwise.
» Tollwütiger Geist: Similar in property to Geistershnitt, taken inverse. Rather than facilitate the flow and manipulation of the blade around an incoming obstacle, the weapon is drawn inwards, its energy used to amplify his blut for a singular strike. Functional primarily as a followup to a feint, the process is not so much exhaustive as it is painful, the repetitive use of which could easily cause his arm to rupture into a fountain of blood. It should be duly noted that this prevents the use of his spirit weapon for its duration, although it is best not held for more than a short period of time, the pain breaking the focus needed to maintain the effect.
» Losgefunkt Geist: A simplistic application of Lukas' spellcraft. Drawing the spirit weapon back for a thrust, rather than focus a hirenyaku on the sole of his feet, it is adhered to the blade's hollow core. Activating the technique, Lukas is pulled along by the blade at accelerated speeds, capable of further augmenting with his own natural speed rather than overwrite it. More taxing than his general hirenyaku, and requiring more focus, this can only be used once per thread. Incompatible with any other technique that charges or manifests in its core, it's fairly easy to read.
» Eindringlicher Regen: When Ahnengeist is manifested, the hollow core can be filled with a singular charge of flowing reishi. A swirling ethereal mass, it acts as ammunition for a one-shot projectile technique inherent to the spirit weapon. By thrusting, or slashing, and utilizing Geistererbe. The edge is then dissolved, releasing the reishi in a focused barrage of arrows, roughly the size of a person. Condensed and focused, recharging the energy required for this attack takes 3 posts, and can only be used 2 times per thread. The slashing form of this is notably less capable than that of the thrusting variant, the area it covers becoming far less precise. Not as directly powerful or large as Spukender, this technique is more directly dangerous, being both easier to aim and penetrative.
» Geistertreffen: A technique born of Lukas' reishi absorption when channeled into his spirit weapon. When not manifested with, or charging reishi for Eindringlicher, the hollow core of Ahnengeist can be used to take in opposing energy attacks. While not an exact science, it should be assumed anyone a tier higher could create an attack too large to be taken into the housing, and shatter the spirit weapon in functionality until manifested again - assuming Lukas survives the damage. By opening the blade's core, and then closing it around an attack, the energy can be launched back in the form of a modified Eindringlicher; matching the output of the attack used for its source. This does not count towards the general use of Eindringlicher, being entirely reliant on timing and an outside source of reishi.
» Upgrading: Tier, 3-4 -> 3-2
» Why: Burst claim, Spirit Weapon from Advanced to Elite, and being affected by Rita's Asset Aura here after burning through his Quincy powers in the Ichigo Attack.
» Extra: "Fuck Ichigo."
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Re: Todesjäger Marching Forward
Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:10 am
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---This one is a bit of a difficult handling for the simple reason that it's pretty much just a passive guaranteed anti-durability if he can get in there. We do have examples of negation-type powers that do cancel out defences or breach into this realm but none of them are a passive attribute with no real drawbacks. It was balanced previously through his need to commit his full attention rather than general focus, leaving him susceptible to counterattack or surprise and to be within their reach whereas now he has the benefit of range (the length of the sword) and it not requiring nearly as much focus to be commited to it.
--There should be caveats to things like these and while I can imagine this attribute, some situations come to mind where this will be difficult to unpack. A barrier cast by a high-level kido user of greater spiritual power than him being bypassed does not make much sense, why a being of powerful reiatsu does not just destablise the reishi and reiryoku that makes up blade's shape before it hits for example. Physical contact was a much easier justification as to why it could bypass these things due to already being in the process of touching.
--Overall, I would like to see this ability be fleshed out a little more with more specifics to how it functions and an appropriate set-up to have this function whether it be he activates it for x amount of time before some downtime, he must prepare for x amount of time before being able to ready his special defence-ignoring attack etc.
---Lukas currently has adept blut, in order to express Blut outside of the body an individual requires Elite due to the amount of difficulty there is for a character to turn the technique, which has the premise of absorbing reishi to flood into the circulatory system and enhance the user's body, into one that is forced outside of it. This should be adjusted to not utilise blut as its basis or removed and submitted when Lukas has reached the appropriate skill level of blut.
--Does this count towards the amount of times that he can use Eindringlicher per thread? Reading these two abilities, it feels like Geistertreffen should be the one with the cool-down and limit per thread over its foundation move as it reads as the more specialised and difficult to perform one.
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Original wrote:» Geisterstich Ausführen: An assassination technique refined from Geisterstich, it requires Lukas' full attention - and even more importantly, to be at point blank range of his opponent. Placing his fist onto the target, Geisterklinge is drawn together from every possible point on it's blade, in an attempt to instantaneously form the blade inside of the intended target. The reishi and focus required for this is not particularly manageable for the majority of combat situations, making it suitable for stealth, or a finisher on a weakened/restrained target.
» Geisterschnitt: So long as Lukas can maintain his focus and his spirit weapon, the blade can bypass defensive measures within its full length. Disappearing as it would contact a barrier, armor, or even layers of spiritual pressure - should the defensive measure be within the size of Ahnengeist, the blade will reappear on the opposite end. Focusing further, this technique can be returned to its roots as an assassination technique, attacking an opponents internal organs without leaving a scratch on the outside.
---This one is a bit of a difficult handling for the simple reason that it's pretty much just a passive guaranteed anti-durability if he can get in there. We do have examples of negation-type powers that do cancel out defences or breach into this realm but none of them are a passive attribute with no real drawbacks. It was balanced previously through his need to commit his full attention rather than general focus, leaving him susceptible to counterattack or surprise and to be within their reach whereas now he has the benefit of range (the length of the sword) and it not requiring nearly as much focus to be commited to it.
--There should be caveats to things like these and while I can imagine this attribute, some situations come to mind where this will be difficult to unpack. A barrier cast by a high-level kido user of greater spiritual power than him being bypassed does not make much sense, why a being of powerful reiatsu does not just destablise the reishi and reiryoku that makes up blade's shape before it hits for example. Physical contact was a much easier justification as to why it could bypass these things due to already being in the process of touching.
--Overall, I would like to see this ability be fleshed out a little more with more specifics to how it functions and an appropriate set-up to have this function whether it be he activates it for x amount of time before some downtime, he must prepare for x amount of time before being able to ready his special defence-ignoring attack etc.
» Tollwütiger Geist: An extension of Lukas's single minded blut. By coursing extensive reishi through his arm and into the weapon, his blut can be applied to Ahnengeist's edge, amplifying the next blow delivered. Largely impractical with his other abilities, this application of blut is only useful for overcoming defenses otherwise too capable for the application of Geisterschnitt. A heavy draw on his spiritual pressure, he can only feasibly use this technique once per thread. This is incompatible with any techniques that charge or manifest in the weapon's core.
---Lukas currently has adept blut, in order to express Blut outside of the body an individual requires Elite due to the amount of difficulty there is for a character to turn the technique, which has the premise of absorbing reishi to flood into the circulatory system and enhance the user's body, into one that is forced outside of it. This should be adjusted to not utilise blut as its basis or removed and submitted when Lukas has reached the appropriate skill level of blut.
» Geistertreffen: A technique born of Lukas' reishi absorption when channeled into his spirit weapon. When not manifested with, or charging reishi for Eindringlicher, the hollow core of Ahnengeist can be used to take in opposing energy attacks. While not an exact science, it should be assumed anyone a tier higher could create an attack too large to be taken into the housing, and shatter the spirit weapon in functionality until manifested again - assuming Lukas survives the damage. By opening the blade's core, and then closing it around an attack, the energy can be launched back in the form of a modified Eindringlicher; matching the output of the attack used for its source.
--Does this count towards the amount of times that he can use Eindringlicher per thread? Reading these two abilities, it feels like Geistertreffen should be the one with the cool-down and limit per thread over its foundation move as it reads as the more specialised and difficult to perform one.
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Re: Todesjäger Marching Forward
Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:40 am
[adm]moved to WIP until the changes are made to clear out space in the pending section.[/adm]
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Re: Todesjäger Marching Forward
Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:07 am
Added more detail involving the function of Geisterschnitt, notably its ability to be read against assuming opponents, along with more stringent focus requirements.
Tollwütiger has been reworked entirely.
Eindringlicher has some more clarification in its distinction from the parent technique of Spukender, along with some more additions to Geistereffen. My logic behind the latter having no limit being included somewhat - the idea being that with it relying on him trying to tank an attack and not overestimating his ability to 'catch' it having an inherent risk where the arrows are otherwise a freebie. It was also intended to show the scale of his reishi absorption as opposed to his other quincy abilities, being the most developed (until now).
Tollwütiger has been reworked entirely.
Eindringlicher has some more clarification in its distinction from the parent technique of Spukender, along with some more additions to Geistereffen. My logic behind the latter having no limit being included somewhat - the idea being that with it relying on him trying to tank an attack and not overestimating his ability to 'catch' it having an inherent risk where the arrows are otherwise a freebie. It was also intended to show the scale of his reishi absorption as opposed to his other quincy abilities, being the most developed (until now).
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Re: Todesjäger Marching Forward
Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:47 am
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So long as Lukas can maintain uninterrupted focus and his spirit weapon, the blade can bypass defensive measures within its full length.
--- Just one last thing Snake and we'll get it over the line, I'd like you to add a 2 post cool-down if his focus is broken between being able to reestablish his focus ie, the interruption into the refocusing next post. Sort of like a build-up to getting back into the self-suggested mindset before the effect takes effect again. This only affects Geisterschnitt and he can still use his other spirit weapon abilities naturally. That's all.[/mod]
So long as Lukas can maintain uninterrupted focus and his spirit weapon, the blade can bypass defensive measures within its full length.
--- Just one last thing Snake and we'll get it over the line, I'd like you to add a 2 post cool-down if his focus is broken between being able to reestablish his focus ie, the interruption into the refocusing next post. Sort of like a build-up to getting back into the self-suggested mindset before the effect takes effect again. This only affects Geisterschnitt and he can still use his other spirit weapon abilities naturally. That's all.[/mod]
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Re: Todesjäger Marching Forward
Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:17 am
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