Re: [THEFROST]'s Communication Thread

[KakeruNise no Eiyū]

That's Fair enough to understand. Thanks I was just asking.~

[Jin HoshigawaEstablished Member]

Alright so I've been here for going on two months, and have made, in my opinion, some good strides in improving Jin in ways I like to see. However, during that time I've also noticed one glaring issue, Jin's skills, in comparison, are kinda weak. I like the concept, all of the moves, and everything about him; but if I'm ever going to compete, and have the ability to last in fights with others, I feel as if Jin's abilities, and powers need a revamp.

This is what I've got so far for improvements with Jin's (final-ish) bankai. When you get the time, and if it's not too much to ask, I'd like your opinion on ways I could improve his powers, if they're fine the way they are, or what I should do with Jin later on.

[THEFROSTHead Admin]

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So you are looking for ways to improve Jin's powers? Well, one of the first would be giving him some sort of sealed capacities to use so he isn't forced to use Shikai right off the bat. If we end up going through with the plot for Cirno to take him down the path of obtaining more strength, I could totally see him being able to control blood more freely. What I mean by this is that he'd be able to shape, mend and manipulate his own blood in order to produce all sorts of attacks ranging from blood blast, shaping tendrils, conjuring up shields/armor and infusing them into his attacks for a broader range.

On top of that, he should also be able to convert his spiritual energy into blood at the exchange of losing his energy over time to better generate more blood for him to use. I could also see him being able to siphon the blood from corpses on the battlefield that have been long deceased. Such as if he were on a battlefield, he would be able to drain the blood from dead NPC's in order to have more sources of blood to work with. It would certainly make him a force to be reckoned with while he is in his sealed state.

Furthermore, with him focusing so heavily on these bloody traits, I could see him also having a form of blood touch; where he is able to convert varying objects into blood. That is, he'd have some sort of technique where his hands or other extensions of his body would be able to convert something like water into a form of blood for Jin to use. Imagine if he were in a lake, he'd slam his fist into the water, engulf it with his spiritual energy and use it like it were his own limbs. It would be quite the pesky trouble to deal with.

I'd even wager to say he'd start venturing into the depths of regeneration as he begins to get stronger. I'd first start off with being able to replace limbs by producing a large sum of blood where the missing appendage is. From there, he'd begin to condense the blood with his spiritual energy and eventually it produce new muscles, skin, nerves and so forth until an entirely new limb is forged. This process could also work with minor cuts, bruises, burns and other bodily damage at the cost of his spiritual energy, some signs of exhaustion and drain on his focus to prevent infinite regen.

We can muse over more ideas later, but I have other things to do as of now. You should see the general direction things can go for him now from this post.

[PortaliyaExperienced Member]

Frost. I was thinking.

With Poliro's current power, I wonder why hes not 0-2 as he is because I see him as being worthy as such. What can I do to try and get him up to that level in character or not? I really want him to get there. I'm not fully sure what's holding him from that tier.

[Jin HoshigawaEstablished Member]

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So you are looking for ways to improve Jin's powers? Well, one of the first would be giving him some sort of sealed capacities to use so he isn't forced to use Shikai right off the bat. If we end up going through with the plot for Cirno to take him down the path of obtaining more strength, I could totally see him being able to control blood more freely. What I mean by this is that he'd be able to shape, mend and manipulate his own blood in order to produce all sorts of attacks ranging from blood blast, shaping tendrils, conjuring up shields/armor and infusing them into his attacks for a broader range.

I could definitely see this happening, and could be the initial boost he gets if we go down this path. I'd like to, because it would be some crazy character development for Jin, and Cirno too. I actually had the plan to aim for this, so I have a rough draft of some "light blood manipulation" written up; given some time, this could be expanded upon drastically.

On top of that, he should also be able to convert his spiritual energy into blood at the exchange of losing his energy over time to better generate more blood for him to use. I could also see him being able to siphon the blood from corpses on the battlefield that have been long deceased. Such as if he were on a battlefield, he would be able to drain the blood from dead NPC's in order to have more sources of blood to work with. It would certainly make him a force to be reckoned with while he is in his sealed state.

I like this idea; a lot. I don't have much to add to it because this works so well. plus, with Jin's new sword that Gin made for me using Stefan (don't know if you saw it) that could be one of the main ways he siphons the blood.

Furthermore, with him focusing so heavily on these bloody traits, I could see him also having a form of blood touch; where he is able to convert varying objects into blood. That is, he'd have some sort of technique where his hands or other extensions of his body would be able to convert something like water into a form of blood for Jin to use. Imagine if he were in a lake, he'd slam his fist into the water, engulf it with his spiritual energy and use it like it were his own limbs. It would be quite the pesky trouble to deal with.

I saw this, and instantly thought "Time to renovate the tenth division to have a giant fountain in the center." And then I thought, why not take it one step further, and borrow an idea from A:TLA; Katara had a satchel that houses water, or even like Gaara. Also carry some sort of object that contains water that Jin can instantly transform into blood for varying attacks.

I'd even wager to say he'd start venturing into the depths of regeneration as he begins to get stronger. I'd first start off with being able to replace limbs by producing a large sum of blood where the missing appendage is. From there, he'd begin to condense the blood with his spiritual energy and eventually it produce new muscles, skin, nerves and so forth until an entirely new limb is forged. This process could also work with minor cuts, bruises, burns and other bodily damage at the cost of his spiritual energy, some signs of exhaustion and drain on his focus to prevent infinite regen.

We can muse over more ideas later, but I have other things to do as of now. You should see the general direction things can go for him now from this post.

This would be absolutely epic. This could go great with all of the other ideas, and also don't really have much to add. Now, I know it is some time away, but I was musing over what to do with my shikokai. I was definitely digging the idea of creating a forest, but I wouldn't mind taking it one step further. Then I saw Vincent, and his chaos form. I could definitely see Jin transforming especially if we also go down the path for him to acquire Death Energy. Let me know what ya think.

Also...I need someway that makes my bankai not so god damn susceptible to EVERYONE elses bankai. I have some element resistance, but I don't need my bankai getting lolpwned everytime

[KadeDemon Innovator of Violence]

I want to challenge Radioactive on Aug 25.....I need to prepare one ultimate transformation then I'll be ready, Just like the last time no death battle.

Then when the time is right I want to challenge Shadin Yuudeshi...

[tinaSeasoned Member]

Well, I just had a quick question about stuff in karakura town for you. What would happen if someone caused a blackout in karakura town? In my recent thread between Sou and Rachel, Rachel started sucking up all the electricity within 100 feet of her in to a giant ball while in her released form. On top of that, Sou released his form, so I'm trying to figure out if A. we have to make this an open thread now, and B. whether someone would pop over there due to what is going on. If you need a link to the thread, I'll provide you with one, but basically I'm looking to see what possible consequences there could be due to what's going on.

[Horus SarielExperienced Member]

Evening Frost, I know you currently hard at work on quite a bit so I'm not expecting a reply to this all that soon but I figured I'd bounce some thoughts & ideas off yah.

As you currently know I've been working on Shinsei the past few days, whom is going to be my second Vizard. Too start things off so far I've got some solid ability ideas down for Shinsei, and have the goal of him being my strongest character for the time being(and as such having a large roll in things). Some things I find I'm having issues thinking up would be things such as familial relations, relationships, rivalries, etc.. And beyond that I'm finding it hard to expand on things I know I'll need to, such as his 'unfeeling body', Zanjutsu mastery, and other areas that would tie into such.

While I don't have much actually written for abilities aside from racial's, I do have ideas for most if not all of what he will have. Such as dust/particle manipulation, earth manipulation, tectonic control, geo-electric generation & manipulation, seismic sensory, a seismic field of sorts, and several other things tied into them, or branching from them.

Unfortunately although it may help I've yet to figure out Shinsei's personality, as such I can't really try to reflect his abilities off of it. What I do know for sure is that he's going to be quite the silent character, speaking little, and when he does speak; at least in battle; it hold heavy meaning. Shinsei'll also appear cold to those who've yet to get close to him, and those that manage such a thing will find just how gentle a soul Shinsei can be, yet how fiercely protective he is as well.

I'm not sure if it'll help at this point, but here's a link to Shinsei's app, hopefully it adds some insight.

https://www.platinumhearts.net/t10054-shinsei-wip

Given that I plan him to be my strongest character yet, I plan to be at work on Shinsei for quite a while still, and as such have time to flesh out ideas with your help. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

[SinpoderThe Hellknight]

Hello Frost.... I am currently thinking about giving Michael a rather large Update if possible and I have noticed that I have not been really taking advantage of the Danava's natural abilities that make them special from other demons, such as Atma Vatou.... and unfortunately my last experience with making Atma Vatou ended badly due to the fact that I made it kinda unfair but I would like to give it another try but I am running on empty with my creative abilities so if you are willing to help me out I would be very grateful..

[THEFROSTHead Admin]

I want to challenge Radioactive on Aug 25.....I need to prepare one ultimate transformation then I'll be ready, Just like the last time no death battle.

Then when the time is right I want to challenge Shadin Yuudeshi...

Since the site shut down during that time, and Kade never got to making that thread after it booted back up, I'd be down to do it again whenever you were ready. It's up to you when the next round will begin and I'd be happy to duke it out with Eric.

Well, I just had a quick question about stuff in karakura town for you. What would happen if someone caused a blackout in karakura town? In my recent thread between Sou and Rachel, Rachel started sucking up all the electricity within 100 feet of her in to a giant ball while in her released form. On top of that, Sou released his form, so I'm trying to figure out if A. we have to make this an open thread now, and B. whether someone would pop over there due to what is going on. If you need a link to the thread, I'll provide you with one, but basically I'm looking to see what possible consequences there could be due to what's going on.

It would most likely be brought back to power within a few seconds since there are many energy reserves and alternative sources of fuel and energy for the city to use as back-up resources. On top of that, the Dome in Karakura Central could probably pin-point the location of the disturbance and neutralize it before it spread any further once it became a problem.

Evening Frost, I know you currently hard at work on quite a bit so I'm not expecting a reply to this all that soon but I figured I'd bounce some thoughts & ideas off yah.

As you currently know I've been working on Shinsei the past few days, whom is going to be my second Vizard. Too start things off so far I've got some solid ability ideas down for Shinsei, and have the goal of him being my strongest character for the time being(and as such having a large roll in things). Some things I find I'm having issues thinking up would be things such as familial relations, relationships, rivalries, etc.. And beyond that I'm finding it hard to expand on things I know I'll need to, such as his 'unfeeling body', Zanjutsu mastery, and other areas that would tie into such.

While I don't have much actually written for abilities aside from racial's, I do have ideas for most if not all of what he will have. Such as dust/particle manipulation, earth manipulation, tectonic control, geo-electric generation & manipulation, seismic sensory, a seismic field of sorts, and several other things tied into them, or branching from them.

Unfortunately although it may help I've yet to figure out Shinsei's personality, as such I can't really try to reflect his abilities off of it. What I do know for sure is that he's going to be quite the silent character, speaking little, and when he does speak; at least in battle; it hold heavy meaning. Shinsei'll also appear cold to those who've yet to get close to him, and those that manage such a thing will find just how gentle a soul Shinsei can be, yet how fiercely protective he is as well.

I'm not sure if it'll help at this point, but here's a link to Shinsei's app, hopefully it adds some insight.

https://www.platinumhearts.net/t10054-shinsei-wip

Given that I plan him to be my strongest character yet, I plan to be at work on Shinsei for quite a while still, and as such have time to flesh out ideas with your help. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

I'm not quite sure what you are really asking me. When I was reading of all that, it seemed you went all over the place with personality, racial abilities, unique powers, building the characters foundation and so forth. So, I may need you to clarify what area you really want me to help you in. I mean, I can form relationships with some of my other Yuudeshi such as Shatari, Zin, Shadin and so forth; but then you went on about forming rivalries, different sorts of character personalities and so forth.

In other words, what I'm asking you is simple: point out what areas you want me to help you in and I will see what I can do in each one.

Hello Frost.... I am currently thinking about giving Michael a rather large Update if possible and I have noticed that I have not been really taking advantage of the Danava's natural abilities that make them special from other demons, such as Atma Vatou.... and unfortunately my last experience with making Atma Vatou ended badly due to the fact that I made it kinda unfair but I would like to give it another try but I am running on empty with my creative abilities so if you are willing to help me out I would be very grateful..

Depends on what your objective is for obtaining the Atma Vatou. I know you are a blood guy, so why not just focus it around that? Based on the fact the guy is a scientist, I could imagine him having some sort of detection system with a special mist that is infused with his blood that begins scanning different types of blood on the battlefield to begin deciphering them better.

Such as if someone got stabbed, blood spewed out and it came into contact with Micheal, he could attempt to analyze it than and there to speed up his research, come up with counters and attempt to adapt himself better to the user as more of their blood comes out during the duration of the battle. This could be further backed up by his Grand Master Mental Deduction and is very much legal because he has to make someone bled first, and it would be extremely easy to NPC's around Micheal to have their structures deduced.


I can also imagine him having a second Atma Vatou that worked as blood transfusions. That is, it's storage device which has many types of different blood Micheal has collected. Depending on the type he drinks, he can have variable effects. Such as if he drunk the blood of a speedster he once drained, it can temporarily give him a two times boost in speed for a duration of, say, two to four post and has a two to four cooldown before he can use it again. The bases of it is associated with your other Atma Vatou in the fact he was able to take basic to intermediate attributes of the blood he deciphered, keep samples of it in this collection of unique blood packs and use them for later for short periods of time and at the cost of burning through a bit of his energy with each enhancement.

There may be others blood who are incompatibility depending on the character you came across, but there are many types of different enchantments from other races based off of NPC's he could use. I could also imagine him taking the blood of a healer to have a few saves for him later on in the thread. Such as of he had blood samples from someone in Shadow Fall proficient with healing, he could take their attributes, drink it and have a ten to twenty percent increase in health that can only be used three to four times in a thread or something like that.

That's just a few ideas I have, you'll have to reply and tell me what more you are looking for in that regard.

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