What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
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What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:27 am
What and where do we go from here?
Soz for the lame topic title xD
ok people you may have noticed we have had a group of members and staff disappear before our very eyes. This has of course saddened every single one of us and we obviously want things to return the way they were beforehand. I have been going through the organisations and have already found about 6 or 10 charatcers that will be removed from the orgs which will leave open slots.
but this got me thinking. The damage we suffered is great to heart but not as big to the site itself as we cna build form it. However, this does give everyone perfect opportunity. I apologise frost if im charging ahead without you but you must be able to see what im trying to do with reason.
However the point I wish to make is, we are at a point where improvements can be made. As people have disappeared it just feels right for things to take a turn around. So basically for BOTH members and Staff (this has been done before), What from Platinum Hearts do you want to see happen? What is bad about it and how can it improve the way we play and feel about things here. DO we have too many orgs? Too many races? Not enough places etc
of course people can't just point and say 'I want that one' because it's not as easy as that. but do think about it. Should things stay the same when we rebuild ourselves from the events or shall they take a new path?
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Re: What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:47 am
It is my honest opinion that for a short while, maybe we should loosen up on races, and focus on what we already have. There already are a lot of races/orgs, which gives everyone options as to what they want to RP as, and it's good. But I think we have enough at the moment
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Re: What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:31 pm
Gonna go with Ryuu in the regards to races and organizations. There's so many choices, some aren't even getting a memberbase for them, leaving things stretched out to the point that it is actually hard to advance in the regards of plot lines and personal developments.
Moving on from that though, comes my own views on a different subject. Quality, is a big thing on any rp site, it can make or break anything and everything. Due to there being gaps now, it's likely that site Quality may fall victim or change in a different way. Then again, during the first part of my tenure here, I noticed that the quality was slacking in a few areas in regards to profiles and grading. It wasn't in a bad hole or slump, but, there were instances in which I personally can't help but think weren't properly reviewed in the way of preventing op'd characters, allowing massive loopholes that folks have taken advantage of.
So, in short on that, I'd like to see a little bit of a tighter control on character flow, development and creation. Not to the point of nazi-like control, but, while I understand that this site is beginner friendly, the creation section becomes more guided and organized, increasing the quality of, not only the grading itself, but the profiles that are pushed through as well, improving the site's functionality in regards to smoother rp thanks to a lack of op'd loopholes, and also improving the creation skills of our members.
With that, also comes a note to members, because it's not solely staff's fault. If you're making something, think about it before you push for it to be approved. Think in a way of self-recognition, if you're making something like an ability or character and say to yourself at any point "Dude, this is SOOOO awesome! Nobody is gonna be able to beat/stop my guy now!" then...well...STOP MAKING IT. Had to caps for effect there. If you're trying to take advantage of a loophole, that's called being crooked, if you're not bothering to look for a loophole, that's called being lazy, both of which are qualities I'm sure nobody wants on this site.
*keeps preaching for another five hours about how quality should be focused on and people need to put more effort into their work*
Moving on from that though, comes my own views on a different subject. Quality, is a big thing on any rp site, it can make or break anything and everything. Due to there being gaps now, it's likely that site Quality may fall victim or change in a different way. Then again, during the first part of my tenure here, I noticed that the quality was slacking in a few areas in regards to profiles and grading. It wasn't in a bad hole or slump, but, there were instances in which I personally can't help but think weren't properly reviewed in the way of preventing op'd characters, allowing massive loopholes that folks have taken advantage of.
So, in short on that, I'd like to see a little bit of a tighter control on character flow, development and creation. Not to the point of nazi-like control, but, while I understand that this site is beginner friendly, the creation section becomes more guided and organized, increasing the quality of, not only the grading itself, but the profiles that are pushed through as well, improving the site's functionality in regards to smoother rp thanks to a lack of op'd loopholes, and also improving the creation skills of our members.
With that, also comes a note to members, because it's not solely staff's fault. If you're making something, think about it before you push for it to be approved. Think in a way of self-recognition, if you're making something like an ability or character and say to yourself at any point "Dude, this is SOOOO awesome! Nobody is gonna be able to beat/stop my guy now!" then...well...STOP MAKING IT. Had to caps for effect there. If you're trying to take advantage of a loophole, that's called being crooked, if you're not bothering to look for a loophole, that's called being lazy, both of which are qualities I'm sure nobody wants on this site.
*keeps preaching for another five hours about how quality should be focused on and people need to put more effort into their work*
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Re: What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:48 pm
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Well kaigen has brought up very good points. the one I think should be looked at more though is the way tiers represent our charatcers. We say that a tier means nothing in true combat and just reflects our overall ability. However that is not always the case as people with two of the same tier are supposed to be even in battle however one can easily be seen as the victor. Thus I do suggest we hit the Tier harder and make sure everyone knows exactly what each one does and how to earn it.
Also I know tier boosts are supposed to be earned but i think we need to set bigger thresholds as to who can have what. Whenever I see an app I just think he has Bankai or i presume he has his segunda even though the rules say they don't... well they do. Thus I think we should go with have a required tier to earn said bankai or segunda, then they MUST RP FOR IT as proof rather than just asking for it in an upgrade thread. if i'm mistaken and we already do this then I apologise, but that means I don't understand it.
I somewhat suggest we do an Org reset myself. I know that sounds stupid and a waste of time but what it does give, is we will remove all inactive members in one shot so we can see who is actually there now AND free open spots for members to join that we can trust. ALSO I think we need requirements for specific positions. Literally having someone join, we bump them up a tier then they go inactive and we never see them again. I think placing requirements means they will earn their place AND will be more likely to stay there. I think we already have some requirements but i never hear them mentioned or followed myself...
Staff wise, my views on randomly adding people from ROTR will just get us in shit again. I know frost said he's going to be much more careful with staff and I'm certainly going to make sure he does so. I won't be trusting people just because they asked for the position and did a little bit of proving work.
Also on a staff note. before we even add new staff I think we should ALWAYS hold a staff poll so people can choose if they should join or not. reason for this, is 'yes' we may get an awesome person join that works hard etc like UHCM did which were very grateful for. But what happens if we get someone not half the staff actually like? We wont talk to them, only half will actually care and then shit kicks off about this. Im somewhat surprised we dont have staff polls bout adding new staff already... I mean... we had bloody Katsumi at one point...
Also Of course the Espada need some kind of bigger role in things. I saw that the canon antagonists had very little role in the overall happenings of the site and nobody even wanted to join them. Thus I say we give them a bigger role thus making them more appealing and we get people in them to cause whatever havoc their intending. Of course ill try to think of a way they can get involved and the way im moving Ashlei atm, the Cero Espada will have some new tricks to show everyone.
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Well kaigen has brought up very good points. the one I think should be looked at more though is the way tiers represent our charatcers. We say that a tier means nothing in true combat and just reflects our overall ability. However that is not always the case as people with two of the same tier are supposed to be even in battle however one can easily be seen as the victor. Thus I do suggest we hit the Tier harder and make sure everyone knows exactly what each one does and how to earn it.
Also I know tier boosts are supposed to be earned but i think we need to set bigger thresholds as to who can have what. Whenever I see an app I just think he has Bankai or i presume he has his segunda even though the rules say they don't... well they do. Thus I think we should go with have a required tier to earn said bankai or segunda, then they MUST RP FOR IT as proof rather than just asking for it in an upgrade thread. if i'm mistaken and we already do this then I apologise, but that means I don't understand it.
I somewhat suggest we do an Org reset myself. I know that sounds stupid and a waste of time but what it does give, is we will remove all inactive members in one shot so we can see who is actually there now AND free open spots for members to join that we can trust. ALSO I think we need requirements for specific positions. Literally having someone join, we bump them up a tier then they go inactive and we never see them again. I think placing requirements means they will earn their place AND will be more likely to stay there. I think we already have some requirements but i never hear them mentioned or followed myself...
Staff wise, my views on randomly adding people from ROTR will just get us in shit again. I know frost said he's going to be much more careful with staff and I'm certainly going to make sure he does so. I won't be trusting people just because they asked for the position and did a little bit of proving work.
Also on a staff note. before we even add new staff I think we should ALWAYS hold a staff poll so people can choose if they should join or not. reason for this, is 'yes' we may get an awesome person join that works hard etc like UHCM did which were very grateful for. But what happens if we get someone not half the staff actually like? We wont talk to them, only half will actually care and then shit kicks off about this. Im somewhat surprised we dont have staff polls bout adding new staff already... I mean... we had bloody Katsumi at one point...
Also Of course the Espada need some kind of bigger role in things. I saw that the canon antagonists had very little role in the overall happenings of the site and nobody even wanted to join them. Thus I say we give them a bigger role thus making them more appealing and we get people in them to cause whatever havoc their intending. Of course ill try to think of a way they can get involved and the way im moving Ashlei atm, the Cero Espada will have some new tricks to show everyone.
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Re: What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:00 pm
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im not sure these are considered spoilers or not, so i made it so you can view at your own risk
im not sure these are considered spoilers or not, so i made it so you can view at your own risk
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- what about keeping it update to the anime/manga, like have eXicution in here for humans. or like the bankai third form that ichigo was rumored to have
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Re: What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:04 pm
Another thing, we need to go through the awards section, seeing as half the images are broken links. Awards are something pretty cool, giving it a small revamp wouldn't hurt either I think.
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Re: What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:55 pm
Ryuu's ConcernsRyuuichi Nakajima wrote:It is my honest opinion that for a short while, maybe we should loosen up on races, and focus on what we already have. There already are a lot of races/orgs, which gives everyone options as to what they want to RP as, and it's good. But I think we have enough at the moment
Yeah, if Feu really wants his custom race on here, I'll add it. But other then that, I highly doubt there will be anymore races. I'm going to be focusing on canons', but I'm still going to keep a bit of the OC aspect as well. And I've already removed a few orgs/races and things should be less cluttered soon.Ryuu wrote:Another thing, we need to go through the awards section, seeing as half the images are broken links. Awards are something pretty cool, giving it a small revamp wouldn't hurt either I think.
Yeah, the award system needed reworking before all of this. I'll probably get around to that later, though, since it's not a top concern. Perharps we can make it where you earn certain awards you get prizes on the site, that's just a quick idea I just got, though. We'd have to discuss it further.
Kaigen's ConcernsKaigen wrote:Moving on from that though, comes my own views on a different subject. Quality, is a big thing on any rp site, it can make or break anything and everything. Due to there being gaps now, it's likely that site Quality may fall victim or change in a different way. Then again, during the first part of my tenure here, I noticed that the quality was slacking in a few areas in regards to profiles and grading. It wasn't in a bad hole or slump, but, there were instances in which I personally can't help but think weren't properly reviewed in the way of preventing op'd characters, allowing massive loopholes that folks have taken advantage of.
I won't say all, but most of my other staff that left only posted at their pleasure or leisure, so I believe the quality may go up a bit when the new staff/members are fully immersed into the site and we are done repairing everything on the site. As for profiles, yeah, that's why we have the checklist now and I'm gonna be on my new staff about this to prevent OP characters again. That's gonna be on my agenda during this new era.Kaigen wrote:So, in short on that, I'd like to see a little bit of a tighter control on character flow, development and creation. Not to the point of nazi-like co ntrol, but, while I understand that this site is beginner friendly, the creation section becomes more guided and organized, increasing the quality of, not only the grading itself, but the profiles that are pushed through as well, improving the site's functionality in regards to smoother rp thanks to a lack of op'd loopholes, and also improving the creation skills of our members.
Really good input here and I will try to find ways to incorporate that into the system. I may ask you in PM for more ideas to help with the site during this time of rebuilding.Kaigen wrote:With that, also comes a note to members, because it's not solely staff's fault. If you're making something, think about it before you push for it to be approved. Think in a way of self-recognition, if you're making something like an ability or character and say to yourself at any point "Dude, this is SOOOO awesome! Nobody is gonna be able to beat/stop my guy now!" then...well...STOP MAKING IT. Had to caps for effect there. If you're trying to take advantage of a loophole, that's called being crooked, if you're not bothering to look for a loophole, that's called being lazy, both of which are qualities I'm sure nobody wants on this site.
Haha, I may put that somewhere in the rules or guide so we don't have what we did last time. Since alot of times I myself felt a bit pressured by other members in my own staff whenever they would make characters like that and I felt like I had to step up myself in order to counter all the OP'd crap.
Chaoz's ConcernsChaoz wrote:Well kaigen has brought up very good points. the one I think should be looked at more though is the way tiers represent our charatcers. We say that a tier means nothing in true combat and just reflects our overall ability. However that is not always the case as people with two of the same tier are supposed to be even in battle however one can easily be seen as the victor. Thus I do suggest we hit the Tier harder and make sure everyone knows exactly what each one does and how to earn it.
We already have guides and such for the tier, but I may make it a bit more obvious in the rule how this tier system works and how people earn it. I thought everyone would look at the "POWER TIER" system and then read "hOW TO UPGRADE YOUR CHARACTER" thread in order to find out how this works.Chaoz wrote:Also I know tier boosts are supposed to be earned but i think we need to set bigger thresholds as to who can have what. Whenever I see an app I just think he has Bankai or i presume he has his segunda even though the rules say they don't... well they do. Thus I think we should go with have a required tier to earn said bankai or segunda, then they MUST RP FOR IT as proof rather than just asking for it in an upgrade thread. if i'm mistaken and we already do this then I apologise, but that means I don't understand it.
Some people had Bankai/Segudna despite that rule either because they were related to the plot, things were walked out behind the scenes or special circumstances. As far as the requirement, it should be 2-1 where they can start learning it and 1-3 where they can finally use it. And I wouldn't mind people doing it in RP in a solo thread or a thread with another person.Chaoz wrote:I somewhat suggest we do an Org reset myself. I know that sounds stupid and a waste of time but what it does give, is we will remove all inactive members in one shot so we can see who is actually there now AND free open spots for members to join that we can trust. ALSO I think we need requirements for specific positions. Literally having someone join, we bump them up a tier then they go inactive and we never see them again. I think placing requirements means they will earn their place AND will be more likely to stay there. I think we already have some requirements but i never hear them mentioned or followed myself...
I think a org reset might be manageable, and the people who were still active would be able to reclaim their spots, making way for new members to come. So, I may find out who is still on the site, remove all others I don't and see what happens. As for the requirements, we can add something in the template since I'm not sure how to go about that yet, but I'm sure you can help me come up with something or our members.Chaoz wrote:Staff wise, my views on randomly adding people from ROTR will just get us in shit again. I know frost said he's going to be much more careful with staff and I'm certainly going to make sure he does so. I won't be trusting people just because they asked for the position and did a little bit of proving work.
I won't randomly add people, I will probably start most off as App Checkers in order to make sure things go more smoothly with this app process and see what happens from there. Me and Feu already discussed that.Chaoz wrote:Also on a staff note. before we even add new staff I think we should ALWAYS hold a staff poll so people can choose if they should join or not. reason for this, is 'yes' we may get an awesome person join that works hard etc like UHCM did which were very grateful for. But what happens if we get someone not half the staff actually like? We wont talk to them, only half will actually care and then shit kicks off about this. Im somewhat surprised we dont have staff polls bout adding new staff already... I mean... we had bloody Katsumi at one point...
I think that's a brilliant idea. Whenever someone applies in the staff template, we will probably decide on that in the staff board rather or not they will join.Chaoz wrote:Also Of course the Espada need some kind of bigger role in things. I saw that the canon antagonists had very little role in the overall happenings of the site and nobody even wanted to join them. Thus I say we give them a bigger role thus making them more appealing and we get people in them to cause whatever havoc their intending. Of course ill try to think of a way they can get involved and the way im moving Ashlei atm, the Cero Espada will have some new tricks to show everyone.
Yeah, I'll leave that end to you since I believe the canons should now have a bigger role in the site. I'll leave that to the members with myself adding what I need or want removed in it.
Kano's ConcernsKano wrote:what about keeping it update to the anime/manga, like have eXicution in here for humans. or like the bankai third form that ichigo was rumored to have
I have no idea what you are talking about and Bankai is fine where it is at. It doesn't need a third stage.
Moose's ConcernsMoose wrote:I am down will refining current organizations and whatnot...
Would be kinda nice...
Yeah, that's most likely gonna happen. I might need my staff's help with it though.
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Re: What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:55 am
Indeed this is a new era of creation and making things better and more acceptable on the site. As for getting rid of so many organizations, I think we needed to clean that out any way. A lot of groups didn't have much activity and/or people in them. Everything I wished to bring up has either already been said or solved, so just posting my opinions here.
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Re: What to do from here [Departure of Opportunity]
Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:07 am
NEW COLORS ON THE FORM!!! D:<
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