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Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:14 am
  • Name Of Character: Natalia
  • Link To Character Profile: https://www.platinumhearts.net/t9168-natalia-de-mortes-approved-3-2
  • Reasons For Upgrading: I was wanting to give her some new skills. Of course they will only awaken in a thread where i am given permission to gain them before hand.
    What Are You Upgrading: I am upgradeing the power of her eye

    Natalia abilities Chaos_Eye_by_Legend_of_Darkness This mark appears over the original dragons eye to show that the copy ability is active. I am doing this so that there is no confussion on when it is active over the original dragons eye that she possesses in her app. This is an upgrade to the eye so i figured it would be best to show it in some way.

    Natalia will be given mastery over the power of her eye skill. She will be able to control it but only in the one eye that was never covered. She can analyze and recreate any skill used against her. This allows her to use the skill as if it was her own. Upon analyzeing the weapon she can recreate it. though the skill will not be as strong as the original it can be made stronger as her tier increases. the tier depends on the power the skill will be that she copys. The tier ranking is lower down. The more knoladge she has the closer it will get to being equil to the original. The maijor downside is i am makeing it where i have to get the players okay before she can use this part of the eye on their char's skill. She can not use the skill she copys till the next thread after she begins analysis. one eye will still always be on sense it was fully active before this became possible though she can control the other though till she goes through enough threads useing it the control on turning on and off will not be perfect. she can only have so many skills copy'd per tier. Natalia can only copy so many skills per rank below is the tiers and the amount of skills they can copy. Again she can only copy the skill if the player gives the okay. if the person playing the char says no obviously i will not be allowed to copy said skill. After the limit has been reached she can not copy anymore skills. She is not able to get rid of one to learn another. This makes it so that she has to be picky on the skills she would want to gain. She can only use the eyes for a given amount of posts. the time fram for the eyes will be given in down below. it will be giv en through tier order as the higher tier the longer it can be used. The skill can be prevented if they manage to get her to close her eyes before the post is complete. The only other way is to make it where her eyes are not able to be used such as she is blinded or something along those lines. or they manage to avoid useing actual skills till the time limit is up.
    Tier 5=3 skills
    tier 4=4 skills
    tier 3=5 skills.
    tier 2=6 skills
    tier 1= 7 skills
    tier 0= 8 skills.

    The posts per tier of activation time limit is a limit to how many posts the power of the eye can be used. this has no bearing on how long it takes to learn a skill only how long they have fo the skill that they are to copy to be used against her. The time for the skill to be learned is how ever long after the skill to be copy'ed was used to the the end of the thread not a post before. the skill can not be used till the next thread as stated above.
    tier 3=4 posts
    Tier 2-5posts
    tier 1=6posts
    and tier 0=7 posts.
  • Any Extra Notes: (Anything else you want to add?)


For now i will take regenerationn off but i may try for it again sometime later.


Last edited by Natalia on Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:38 pm; edited 6 times in total
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Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:13 pm
Alright here's the deal, the eyes need a draw back of some sort. The copying skill needs a draw back this is not an argument or up for debate, make a draw back for the copy power and the other one is declined till some rework is done, because Zanpakutō's do not do that nor do inner hollows. And even if they did to that degree is not happening, I will be moving this to pending and will be watching it for when the subjects above are fixed.
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Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:36 pm
it has drawbacks. it states in it that one is I can not use it unless the player gives an okay.
second is that she can not use the skill till at least 3 posts after the skill was analyzed to analyze it more.
the third is that she can only hold so many skills.
the fourth is that its power is dependent on her tier.
this is all in the post. but i have added somethink to point these out more.
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Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:15 pm
Permission is not a draw back..A draw back is like using your eyes causes blindness in them for so and so posts. As for the power depending on Tier is also null as the power will grow with your character, now you need to think of some real draw backs to using the eyes and maybe even a time limit how long she can.

Also holding a number a skills is a limiter but still you can copy anything you see and what is stopping her from removing a skill she copied and replacing it with something else. also wouldn't it be better for being able to use the ability after the thread is complete or something like that? since the ability needs to be analyzed?
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Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:34 pm
Added the no skill can be forgotten once learned.
Added time restriction to skill.
Added that copy'd skill can not be used till next thread.
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Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:10 am
Alright im taking over.

you added some limiters but still you state that the ability analyzes the move but how long does it take to analyze the ability? Analyzing something takes time. how can one prevent their ability from being coped IC wise? All abilities need to be avoidable in some way shape or form.

Also you state that one eye will always have the ability on no matter what. Then you state you have a limiter for how long the ability can be used for the other eye. i will say no to that. One eye can not have this ability active for the entire time.

Also Asking for permission does not count as a drawback and your power gets stronger as you do is also mute as this is always the case.

Also to restate your healing ability is denied under the grounds of crow said so you will need to change that in order to get that approved. i believe what crow said is the information you need to change the ability to make it approval-able.
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Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:40 pm
I added a way to stop it and i do hope i explained the rest of it a bit more.
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Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:22 pm

Alright I will make myself Clear. It seems that you ignored some of the things i have told you to include or missed them completely.

First I want you to fix up the writing of the ability and fix any grammar mistakes. Read it to yourself out loud and see if it makes sense i feel like i have gotten confused a number of times reading this. i had to read this over and over and also found some issues with logic.

Now to the power, My biggest issue is how i stated that you can not have the ability always active in one eye. i will even copy and paste what i said so you can see it.


Also you state that one eye will always have the ability on no matter what. Then you state you have a limiter for how long the ability can be used for the other eye. i will say no to that. One eye can not have this ability active for the entire time.

now i will copy and paste what you have written


Natalia will be given mastery over the power of her eye skill. She will be able to control it but only in the one eye that was never covered

one eye will still always be on sense it was fully active before this became possible though she can control the other though till she goes through enough threads useing it the control on turning on and off will not be perfect.

The only other way is to make it where her eyes are not able to be used such as she is blinded or something along those lines. or they manage to avoid useing actual skills till the time limit is up.

Now read all this together. Do you see the issue? You first state that this skill only works in one single eye. The eye that was never covered by the eye patch. Then you go on and state That ONE eye will ALWAYS be active. This isn't all but you go on and state that she can use the other. You originally stated 1 Eye. how did it become 2? Yet you state till the time limit is up so the Eye has a time limit. well my 2 eyes sees 2 big issues with this. You originally stated 1 EYE not two. then you state Always Active. ALWAYS ACTIVE WHICH IS A NO ESPECIALLY FOR THIS ABILITY. Then you state this ability has a time limit. Wait but how? i thought it was always active.

Now for your drawbacks you state


The maijor downside is i am makeing it where i have to get the players okay before she can use this part of the eye on their char's skill.
This would not be considered a drawback because it would be the same plagiarism. You ask the owner for permission due to it being something they spent their time to create and make. if you didn't have to ask for permission one could take it and use it as there own. Its not right to take someone else's work and claim it as your own. thats why permission is required. you wouldn't enjoy if your own work was taken and someone else was given credit for it.


She can not use the skill she copys till the next thread after she begins analysis.

Alright this is a fine limiter.


though the skill will not be as strong as the original it can be made stronger as her tier increases. the tier depends on the power the skill will be that she copys. The tier ranking is lower down. The more knoladge she has the closer it will get to being equil to the original.

This is another that would not be really considered a drawback due to the rule being that an ability one copies would be equal to their own tier. Someone would not be able to copy an ability from someone who is 1-1++ or something like that and be a 4 tier and expect the same power from it.


she can only have so many skills copy'd per tier

This is another fine limiter


The skill can be prevented if they manage to get her to close her eyes before the post is complete. The only other way is to make it where her eyes are not able to be used such as she is blinded or something along those lines. or they manage to avoid useing actual skills till the time limit is up.

Alright i will say this. This is not a drawback. You say that who ever is fighting you can not use their abilities if they were to fight you and you turn on your eye ability if they wish to avoid you copying their power. This is not a drawback at all. This just makes a fight much easier for you as the opponent would be force to not use their powers. Especially if you look at how long your limits for your eyes are. Also what can cause her to close her eyes? you do know that human body is constantly blinking to keep our eyes moist and remove dirt. You state that if one manages to get her to close her eyes before the post is complete. What post? does it take one post for her to see and analyze the ability to know how to use it? So before what post is complete? you do not provide enough information for one to understand what you are referring to.

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Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:44 pm
moving to denied due to member quiting on this.
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