What Would You Like To See On The Site? [Site Wide Discussion]

I'm not attempting to be selfish. But let me put it in a better way. Sometimes people take four canons because they do it for a reason? Why is that? They believe they can be play the character as they deserved to be played. I have who i have not because i want them hanging around, but because i want them to be done with justie, and not played by some second-rate nub. For example, i even challenged Shizuo to a bet because i thought he played a horrible Kukaku. So, i can be quite anal when it comes to canons, and if at all possible, want them to be played by competent rpers, something we don't' always get. I'm not against it, but i just don't want what could be be actual plot worthy characters going to horrible rp'ers. Thus, a four character option to me prevents that.

Okay. I understand that much better than what you said at first. Lol. I agree completely with the fact that some people just aren't cut out to handle a Canon Character. And I am also one of those people who hate it when someone decides to take a Canon, but have no idea how to actually RP them out. A situation like that is understandable when it comes to not allowing someone to have a certain Canon, but still... How is it fair to those who would actually do a good job as that character, but they never get a chance because someone else who probably doesn't even actively rp with said character has them?

I'm not saying just take someone's Canon Character away for no reason, but if there is a person out there that thinks they can do a good job with that character and someone else isn't even using them, then when do they get their chance?

Serenity, I think you are still not seeing the point Tsu just made. He has too many threads, and some people make big posts. Some people also don't do small spars, any spar for them could be a big thing the way they RP it. Take me for instance, I take threads seriously. I do not want a so called small spar JUST for posts. I think I want my threads to exist for the awesomeness, not be bull posts.

And on Shirou's note

I look at Canon's with a "First come first serve" view. I love Starrk, but JJ got him first so it he is rightfully his. Same with Shirou and his canon's. 4 just seems like a well placed cut off point in my head. So I'm on his side. AND Shirou makes a good point. I have seen some Canon's being Rp'd poorly (like I have seen people do things out of character).

No. I get what Tsu is saying. Are you not understanding MY view behind this? Tsu is different because he isn't taking up 3-4 Canon's at once and RPing with none. This is mainly directed towards those people that have 3-4 Canon's and don't RP with them. Someone who doesn't even want or have 3-4 Canon's, I don't think should even be worried about what I am trying to suggest because it takes nothing away from them...

TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR!!! I think if someone wants 3-4 Canon Characters AT ONCE, should prove in some way that they are ACTIVE with their characters. I hate having to bring names into this and I truly mean no offense by it, but Gin own's three, UHCM has four, and Pockeh also has four. Are these three even active with their Canon Characters? (Pockeh obviously has his reasons and has been on leave, so kinda ignore his name. ) I don't know what happened to Gin and U is around, so if they aren't active with their characters, I believe it's fair to the rest to ask them to drop down to 1 or 2.

So, what my suggestion fully is... If someone wishes to have 3 to 4 Canon's they should just have to do something to prove they are active with each Canon Character, otherwise, I do not find it fair to other people who don't get a chance to RP as a character they want because someone is unwilling to allow another to have a chance.

Also, I went back and looked at the list and noticed someone named Star and another named Kenji who I haven't even seen the entire time I've been here. (At least I don't think) so how is it fair that these two are taking up Canon's yet aren't even here? (Correct me if I am wrong)

I agree with you, then. I suppose could enforce some sort of rule, with certain people and in the same turn, make some exceptions(Like Tsu with Byakuya, because let's face it, that guy isn't mr.social. XD )

...lol

We could do a system where if someone else wants the canon...

The two owners can "Duke it out" in RP.

Whatever the situation is, they would both have to control the character to complete a task. This would show which one knows the character the best and who would play them best. So even if someone has a canon you want badly and they aren't doing much with them, you could submit a challenge in the Canon's application. In addition, this would keep popular canons, like Byakuya, in shape, because it would give them (EVEN IF HE'S NOT MR. SOCIAL) a reason to RP.

So yeah, just a thought I had.

Yay! Well I am glad you understand what I am trying to do now! Lol. And it's probably something that really needs to be talked about with Staff, so.. yeah.. Lol.

And @ JJ... I agree with that completely, but I think a scenario such as 'battling it out' with the Canon Character should only come along if the current owner has 3-4 Canon's already and one of their Canon's is wanted by some other member. If the person has 1 or 2, then making them battle it out would be kinda ... I don't wanna say mean or unfair... But something along those lines. -nod nod.-

MFW this is a bigger debate than I thought it would be.

*sigh* When I was talking about Tsu I wasn't referring to the max of 4 canons. It was a reference to the activity check idea. As for the people you've never seen, I don't think they have even submitted themselves in a regular activity check recently. I could be wrong, but if they haven't they really shouldn't have their Canon's unless they had an honest temp leave. As for others, I've seen U RP as Yachiru at one point recently I believe (I think that was him). Pockeh is pockeh. And Gin...well you got me there.

I do feel we can stick to four and find other ways to make it fair for others. I think JJ's idea actually does work best because, well, for the person who is active and doesn't use Canon's, you can just call them out on it and have a dual at high noon to see who RP's the character better. I can guarantee if they don't use the character or don't deserve it they'll lose (as long as you can RP the character).

Heh heh, JJ is lucky I don't have confidence in my Starrk should that happen.

Alright, I think I should say a few things.
1) Gin's computer is busted atm. so that's why he's not on.
2) Yes, I think for those that have the max amount of canons, maybe they should have to show that they are active with at least one or two.
3) JJ's idea... I'm not a fan of that. I mean, what would constitute a challenge? Just someone going "HEY, I WANT HIM 8D" ? If it's inactivity, then I'd still say no unless the person in question has 4 canons.

Now that I think of it, Tsu makes a very good point. If it was a simple as lolchallenging someone there would be a problem. Those who use canon's don't want to be challenged every 5 seconds by people who don't see the point that they use them (and are good with them possibly). I swear my opinions have been flip-flopping all over the place. However, I'm going to have to agree with Tsu on this. I mean imagine this.

You have a canon and are using them.
Some Nub: I want him!
So you prove you deserve him. You go on about your business.
Some other Nub: Loloolol he's mine!
So you prove it again.
Then you go t-
The first nub again: lolol FLUKE!
Then you rip your hair out and jump out the window.

Also, Tsu is 18 with 18 Karma. Just noticed that.

...HA. SNOPY NOTICED IT TOO.

Anyway, of course it was just an outline, like Madness City was. It would take reworking and maybe require something like writing up a good enough sample to warrant a challenge.

Just putting it out there; you can take it or leave it, whatever.

And Snopy, you wanna ever challenge my Starrk, you go right ahead. Cuz My starrk... ain't no big bad wolf like Gin's.

I AM PRETTY SURE that Staff is smart enough to see when some random noob comes along and just wants to constantly lolchallenge a character. And it won't be to hard to limit challenges for a character to once a month to two months. If someone shows that they are there to fight with AND for their character and they do it successfully, then I think they should have the right to keep it.

That's why I didn't really want it to be some battle thing over them. Just a simple "hey I AM using this character and I used them in this thread" type deal. NOW, if someone's activity comes into question, then sure, allow them to battle over it, but if it doesn't the owner of the character should be safe and in the clear.

There will also be cases in which someone only owns 1 or 2 Canon's and someones still wants to challenge them. In times like that, I believe it should be up to the person being challenged whether they accept that or not. If they feel they can give the other person a chance, or that they won't be active with that character and want to see what someone else will be able to do with them, then it's really just an easy yes between the two. If they don't want to give it up, then it's only a simple 'sorry, but no'.

SerenityVerdant wrote:I AM PRETTY SURE that Staff is smart enough to see when some random noob comes along and just wants to constantly lolchallenge a character. And it won't be to hard to limit challenges for a character to once a month to two months. If someone shows that they are there to fight with AND for their character and they do it successfully, then I think they should have the right to keep it.

That's why I didn't really want it to be some battle thing over them. Just a simple "hey I AM using this character and I used them in this thread" type deal. NOW, if someone's activity comes into question, then sure, allow them to battle over it, but if it doesn't the owner of the character should be safe and in the clear.

There will also be cases in which someone only owns 1 or 2 Canon's and someones still wants to challenge them. In times like that, I believe it should be up to the person being challenged whether they accept that or not. If they feel they can give the other person a chance, or that they won't be active with that character and want to see what someone else will be able to do with them, then it's really just an easy yes between the two. If they don't want to give it up, then it's only a simple 'sorry, but no'.

Well, a challenge could be either a social thread or a fight. However, it's not so simple @ the first point
Yes, we can handle the new morons who come in and want the canon... it's the ones that aren't new morons that are the problem.