Re: Tiers.....so many....
Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:00 am
ಠ_ಠ Where do I begin with this one? Alright, I guess I'll start off with tier listings. There is a reason I keep pestering staff to do tier listings, and it's not just for it to look pretty. I created tier listings so we can keep track of all, or at least close to all the tiers on the site in petty situations such as this one. But so far, I don't think many people update it and I'm not going to do that by myself either since that is a team job. So, because of this thread, I may be on staff's ass more about getting these tier listings updated. Such as assigning different teams different races on the site.
It seems as though captain level is pretty much useless and pointless by now, even though captain level is supposed to be very very strong and above most others. And you might say its been 400 years, but Im willing to bet 1 tier now wasnt the same as 1 tier 400 years ago. The tiers go with the power levels, meaning a captain level now is probably stronger than a captain level of the main Bleach storyline. I have an idea to fix this, but many of you might not like it.
Have you never heard what I said on the xat? We are pretty much stronger then the Captains from 400 years ago, even on the 1 tier level. After the Ender arc, many characters, abilities/powers, organizations and etc got major boost in power to the point where when PH was made we had an entirely different standard. So that means for the past two years of so this system has worked fine for what we've been doing.
I propose as many characters as possible be brought down roughly 2 tiers. Not entire stages, but 2 tiers, like from 0-2 to 0-4. If a 1-1+ is a highly experienced captain level, then shouldnt that be like Shunsui and Ukitake? Seeing as how they ARE highly experienced captain levels. Komamura would probably be a 1-2, seeing as how he has had his Bankai for quite awhile as well as displayed his immense power. Yes. Immense power for a 1-2. Zero tier should be something people strive to get and achieve, not something easily given out or boosted to. I have also noticed characters getting boosted to much higher levels for basically no reason. If this continues, everyone is going to be 0 tier, which doesnt sound very fun at all.
That whole paragraph is just fucked in my opinion, bro. Most 0 tiers that I'm aware of fall under the following categories:
- 1. 0 tiers through veteran. And no, I'm not talking about canon Bleach. I'm talking about older characters on the site that have been around for 1-3+ years (Yes, I am counting Bleach Untold Stories and the start of this site). I'll even use myself for an example. I've heard you saying something about I have 6 0 tier, but has anyone ever decided to use more then 5% of their brain power to figure out that around 90% of my 0 tiers are through RPing them for the past 4-3 years? Mana is the ONLY exception in that list because she was made to be an event character. That goes for alot of older accounts on here or older characters imported from Untold Stories.
- 2. 0 tiers can also be made for event/story purposes. As of recently, I felt the gap between 0 tiers felt a bit off to me for the stories we are going to have down the road. As such, I felt that among the hero/villian/antihero group along with all the different orgs, we needed to have a few more. So, over the past few weeks I've been giving some tier boost to people who I felt were: Active, post everywhere on the forum, work hard to get where they are and so on and so forth. There are also entire characters made soley for event/story purposes such as Mana when I originally made her.
- 3. Some 0 tiers were made purely through work. I'll use Zin/Kin for example for this one as well. Each of them started out at a pretty low tier, Zin being the more extreme cause since in US1 he started off at around 5-5 by today's standards. Over time, I EXPECT people to get stronger after going through so many fights, training, character development, making contributions to the site and so on and so forth. If you've stayed on this site for a long amount of time and ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING, you to will eventually get stronger.
- 4. A few 0 tiers were made from OTM contest we held awhile back. You can't fault those people for something I did when the site was smaller.
And once again, if someone would help me with the god damn tier listings, we'd actually have a better understanding of how many 0 tiers there are. As for Shunsui and Ukitake? They should be 0 tier standards by now since the tier listings definitions I have up now are probably invalid and will need to adjust them. Both of them should be around 0-3 or 0-2 level. And Komamura is pretty weaksauce for me, so I'd say 1-1 at most._______________________
Now, apart from all that shit, I have few of my own suggestions.
- 1. STAFF HELP OUT WITH THE GOD DAMN TIER LISTINGS! (This doesn't need anymore explantation, unless you wanna get down into which teams take care of which races.)
- 2. Go through all the different inactive characters on the site, people who don't do anything with 0 tiers or people who abuse powers and reduce their tier to a lower one so that they have less impact on the total population of 0/1 tier characters. I REFUSE to reduce any tier to a person/character that has worked hard to get where they are, but I don't mind reducing tiers of people who don't do jack shit with their characters.
- 3. I will be removing ANY chance for a tier upgrade apart from COTM from all future OTM's in order to cut down on how many high tiers their are.
- 4. Offer incentives to those who have multiple characters. If you wanna go around removing characters tier, then they should be able to be compensated and allow to have however many tier levels their characters drop be added to another character. (I.E. two side characters go down to 1 tier, but their main character gets an upgrade)
- 5. I will give more explanations of how powers work here since everyone seems to be up in the air about it. I will add more details in threads, the tier listings and in different races.
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I also have some interesting notes to add to this as well
First Note: Also remember that in some races we are STILL trying to fill up slots as well; such as with the demon's.
Second Note: I agree with not handing out 0 tier to long apps anymore. I have been telling people this for the past 2-3 weeks that it's starting to get on my last nerve that some members think just because they make a ballin' app, they get auto 0 tier. I made a mistake in doing some with apps in the past, but I refuse to do so for the future.
Third Note: You can't have your cake and eat it to. I've been been tired of hearing other people bitch, whine, moan and complain about my characters/orgs; so over the past month or so I've been trying to help my members out by giving them upgrades, making them create their own orgs (Which one of yours got), giving them more say and etc. So make up your mind, you either want it one way or the other.
Forth Note: Also, aren't you the one running around with a FUCKTON of canon's, a bunch of 0 tier characters AND even having your own organization? I feel you have little to no reason to complain about this issue or ANYTHING pertaining to my character. If anything, you stand to GAIN if we were to try and do the shit you were talking about.
Fifth Note: You've also been guilty of trying to get tier boost as well by constantly revamping your characters, going for the strongest canon's and doing what you needed to do to get a higher tier. I've seen it with Sephiroph as an example.
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